SPQR,

There is a difference between ranting about pollies and their policies and randomly attributing your fellow posters with every diabolical vice known to man (which is what runner does regularly)

Btw, what do we make of Credlin and Abbott cancelling talks with important people just before hosting the G20?

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinion/confusion-clouds-tony-abbotts-washington-meetings/story-fni0fha6-1226946285710?sv=2833e0ef17b284ce6900cb5d87ed8901

"THERE was some consternation among bureaucrats in Canberra this week when word spread that Tony Abbott had decided against meeting three of the most important economic policy figures in Washington during his forthcoming visit.

Arrangements had been made for the Prime Minister to meet Jack Lew, the US Treasury Secretary. He was also scheduled to hold talks with Christine Lagarde, managing director of the International Monetary Fund, and World Bank president Jim Yong Kim."

"The likely cancellations were particularly surprising because Australia is host of this year’s G20 summit. The leaders of the 20 major economies will assemble in Brisbane in November for what is probably the most high-powered international gathering ever held in this country. According to the Budget papers, the whole G20 exercise is costing Australia almost half a billion dollars — $476.7 million to be precise. That is an indication of its importance.

Lew, Lagarde and Kim are crucial to the summit. Lagarde and Kim are involved in much of the preparatory work and will be there at the table alongside the leaders. And reform of the IMF is one of the items on the summit agenda."

Really, this double act can't seem to go more than a day or two without landing us with a debacle.

I'm tempted to give you my twitter handle, but I think I won't...although I did give a hint here once.

Maybe you can work it out for yourselves : )

Loudmouth, I'm not going to dispute what you say about the Islamic religion.
What I will dispute is the claims by some that the "left" of politics in some way perceives Islam as being a "left" religion as opposed to Christianity being a "right" religion, and therefore the "left" gives some kind of de facto support to Islam. Of course the evidence of "left" support for Islam will be the support for asylum seekers in Australia, by and large these people are Muslims, so in some kind of misrepresentation the nonsense is put forward that to support asylum seekers is to support Islam, totally untrue. Support for asylum seekers is not support for Islam, no more than support for Jewish people by non Jews in WWII was an indication of support for Judaism, it all about support for humanity, not religion.

Loudmouth,

What Paul1405 said....." it's all about support for humanity, not religion."

Poirot wrote

"...Then again life is cheap among lefties who condone baby murder. The 1000 plus drownings caused by the incompetence and gutless policies of the sisterhood went with little scrutiny while the ABC luvvies banged on all night about the one death on Manus Island."

You really are the most hated-filled ranting petty little excuse for a Christian I've ever encountered.

You come on to this forum spitting your vile venom in any direction, proclaiming to stand up for some sort of self-aggrandising morality.

What's this blather?..."....so try revising your filthy little fables to fit your narrative."

Your odious diatribes are the antithesis of the goodness you proclaim to uphold. Your whole construct as "a whiter-than-white" Christian is belied by your dark heart - a heart that is constantly on display on this forum as you strut about flaying your fellow posters with your faux morality.

"Your nasty, vicious, judgmental psyche which you attempt to disguise under the guise of "Christianity" is the reason people run for their lives from fundamentalist Christendom."

Well said.

Hi Paul,

I haven't really considered refugees to Australia as being Muslims, except in the sense of being 'moderate', live-and-let-live Muslims fleeing from Islamist terrorism ranged against them. Obviously I've been thinking here of Hazara refugees from Afghanistan. But Tamils from Sri Lanka are not Muslim. Sudanese and Eritrean refugees tend to be Christian.

To the extent that right and left have any meaning any more - more like 'pro-status-quo' versus 'opportunist-oppositionalist' - yes, I do condemn the 'opportunist-oppositionalists' for their implicit support for Islamist terrorism, for their praising it with faint damns, for their avoidance of linking, say, Boko Haram with Islamist terrorism (calling it something like 'a disaffected group', or 'separatist', when it most certainly isn't: Islamist terrorism is very much in the business of uniting territories under its brand of fascism).

Yes, I do have contempt for the arrogance of O-Os in, thinking, for example, that they can manipulate terrorist groups as the idiots thought they could with the Iranian Islamists back in 1979-1980, - just before they were massacred, that is.

And yes I do have contempt for O-Os, like Socialist Alliance, who push issues that they think serve as a handy stick up the @rse of the Status-Quo mob, and only for that reason. So, Poirot, you may support Peter Slipper even with his crass remarks because he didn't look at his watch or wear a blue tie or wink. THAT's Opportunism, pure and simple, dearie.

So sue me.

Joe

Loudmouth,

After regaling us with a longish narrative on what he thinks about Islamists, etc...Loudmouth finishes off with :

"And yes I do have contempt for O-Os, like Socialist Alliance, who push issues that they think serve as a handy stick up the @rse of the Status-Quo mob, and only for that reason. So, Poirot, you may support Peter Slipper even with his crass remarks because he didn't look at his watch or wear a blue tie or wink. THAT's Opportunism, pure and simple, dearie."

Odd?