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Dole bludgers take a bow!

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Nhoj,

such jealousy and envy.
Posted by runner, Sunday, 1 June 2014 11:03:07 PM
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More "I heard from a bloke down the pub" crap from the rightards.
They cant give any names because it is all LIES. The only thing the neoconartists are competent at.

Worldwatcher
Your weasely attempt to smear the unemployed because they own a smartphone is bollocks. The job network will force a phone on you if you dont have one.
No unemployed person I know eats at restaurants, drinks at pubs or plays lotto or other gambling. Take overseas holidays? Ha They dont get holidays and couldnt afford even a caravan down the coast for a weekend. Most of them cant even eat properly once they have paid for their rent and other essentials. They are very likely to not just "not want to pay" but they are regularly unlikely to even have $7 to their name.
You bring to mind monty python with your "in my day remarks". Shoebox to live in and gravel for tea was it watchy. ffs

Hasbeen
Im not the one slamming the poorest and most defenseless people in our society. You are the one preaching hate and envy. Envy of those with nothing. Cant you see you are being taken for a fool by the real crooks. They think you are so stupid that you will ignore their theft of billions while focusing on the pittance that some loser on the dole might get. And you are proving them right.

Wake up to yourselves you are being conned and goaded into becoming nasty, spiteful bullies that target the weak and the feeble. It is shameful and unAustralian and you should all take a good look at yourselves.
Posted by mikk, Sunday, 1 June 2014 11:08:51 PM
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The Budget predicts a rise in unemployment to 6%, why ? because the Budget is creating it ! How ? by tossing out 16,000 public Service jobs,putting people who currently are on disability Pensions on the dole queue, forcing single mothers with young children out to work,raising the eligibility age for the pension and added to that the school councilors who now face loosing their jobs to Priests ! So, are these people considered to be dole bludgers ? Or the victims of Government policies ? where are all these vacant jobs coming from ? Will someone please define exactly what a Dole Bludger is ? And how they are benefiting from living well below the poverty level ? And exactly how much off there individual tax actually pays for social Welfare and what part of that goes to support the unemployed ? do any of you realize that the unemployment Benefits are not for the poor ? That it is a safety net for the middle class, that once they fall then they are the new poor ! Do you realize by destroying all these safety nets, you are digging holes for your own children ? And do you realize how much financial support that you have to give your children to cushion them from falling into one of those holes ? there is a thing called Social Justice, you should read up on it, It may make you rethink what we actually should be doing,rather than label people as dole bludgers and leaving them to fend for themselves !
Posted by trapdiocan, Monday, 2 June 2014 12:17:42 AM
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Dear Hasbeen,

<<Yuyutsu you are training those kids to believe that stealing is a good way to get what you want.>>

I suspect it's probably just one poor kid, not a plural of them.

By leaving my car unlocked, I teach that poor unknown kid that money is not everything. They already know from past experience that if they leave a mess, then they will find my car locked for the next month or so - which is a lose-lose situation for both of us.

<<You will have no one to blame but yourself when they clean out your home in a few years time. Very foolish of you.>>

I never intended to blame anyone else but myself. If that eventuates, which I doubt (yet also have an alarm-system just in case), then I will deduce that I deserved this as a result of something I've done in my past, either in this lifetime or in previous ones. I know that I'm not innocent, I know that I also played pranks in my childhood, so if I deserve it, then so-be-it and let me come clean of my debt.

Back on topic:

Hungry people steal - and I couldn't blame them.
At the end of the day, they will find some way to eat, this way or the other, but if they're able to do so by receiving that minimal/frugal income without stealing, then we save ourselves the fear and mess of living among thieves. If you do your sums, fortifying your home would cost you more.

That's why I keep a sign in my car's glove-box, for whoever may be searching there:

IS IT MONEY THAT YOU ARE AFTER?
THAN WHY NOT KNOCK AND SIMPLY ASK FOR IT?

Why blame those who steal a little to barely survive on and happily have no job, instead of those who steal much and grudgingly hold and do such a bad job that we would all be better without? On the contrary - we should admire those who volunteer to live with so little, leaving only the minimal environmental footprint behind them.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 2 June 2014 1:27:39 AM
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Oh dear, the under achievers certainly have gone into defense mode on this one.

Firstly, not all dole recipients are bludgers but, it's the genuine 'bludgers' who have brought about this life changing change, through thier prercistant attitude of, it's our given right not to work.

And so it is, but that's not the issue, as the issue is that while nobody insists they work, it's the support they want that's the problem.

Now if one claims to be actively seeking work (the grounds for receiving the dole) and, they get out of bed early at least five days per week, and present themselves ready for work, there's a very strong chance they will find a job.

On the other hand, if they are either drugged up, have a wicked hair style, have tattoos everywhere, have crap hanging out of their faces, then their prospects will be limited.

Now on the other hand, if they present well for work, but don't have the skills to get a job, well what's the problem with mandatory training to gain skills.

People have to accept that welfare is a gift, not a given right and, if used inappropriately, there will be consequesnes.

The problem is though, that the genuine unemployed have finally been dragged down by the serial bludgers.

BTW, for the ten thousandth time, to those using the pension age as an axe grinder, it's the year 2034. Or there a bouts. Hardly happening tomorrow as they thy to make out.
Posted by rehctub, Monday, 2 June 2014 6:55:31 AM
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So our Govt has brought in austerity to pay off a $667 billion debt that was created from nothing by OS Central banks ?

We are paying to have our currency depreciated for no good reason.

Unless we move back to Govt banks and a Central Bank we own that can create new money debt free, we are stuffed. This country will be continued to be looted with the help of our political parties. They are all complicit.
Posted by Arjay, Monday, 2 June 2014 7:54:39 AM
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