Good post 579. Yes, it's a budget based 100% on ideology.

It's ideology first, and the country's people and finances second. A silly "concocted" emergency (that close to nobody in Australia or the rest of the world believes) .... concocted so that the "ideology" reigns supreme. An ideology that stipulates that the rich, upper middle class and BIG business *MUST* receive as much government welfare support/tax breaks as is humanly possible.

Regardless of it being A Current Affair the people are real enough wouldn't you say?

Of course there are thousands avoiding work. I see plenty of it myself where local builders cannot recruit people locally to turn up for the apprenticeship training and the good pay they are offering. How do you explain why a roof tiler is obliged to recruit from overseas?

Apart from that there are the victim industries including multiculturalism where hundreds of millions of taxpayers' dollars are wasted annually, with much of it being diverted into the pockets (and careers) of government bureaucrats and professionals.

That is the inheritance of the well-intended but over-optimistic Gough Whitlam. They really saw Gough coming and have made hay since.

However like others here you already know all of that, or have at least been told, but you are likely out to protect your own interests, which are?

My interest has been declared many times before. It is very simple: I don't particularly care what policies the government enacts (within reason, not limitations on free speech for instance) as long as there is transparency of decision-making and value for money is being obtained.

You couldn't argue for example that value for money is being obtained for taxpayers where hundreds of millions are wasted annually on aboriginal housing that either doesn't get built or where it does, it is trashed or destroyed within months. I don't believe that either side of government has addressed wastage of scant taxpayers' dollars, but the present LNP government seems to be trying and at least doesn't appear to be adding to existing wastage.

Onthebeach, your post was 100% "ideology", and right wing political correctness. And of course with the *OBLIGATORY* references to multiculturalism, Whitlam, aboriginees robbing your tax dollars etc. Gee, it's like it's straight out of the Andrew Bolt Biography.

Oh yes, onthebeach you mention that your local builders can't recruit people who will turn up for their "apprenticeships and good pay". I ask you to name these companies on this forum now, I will then phone them tomorrow and ask them about this, and report the results back here tomorrow.

So onthebeach, name these companies.

@Nhoj, Sunday, 1 June 2014 3:39:42 PM

You don't need any information from me when there are employers and labour recruiters in the papers saying the same and often. Here you go, get on the phone and start ringing, but you wouldn't be out to get a job for yourself I venture,

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/features/willing-workers-from-abroad-take-up-the-slack/story-e6frg6z6-1226937786182#

You could start with your local Centrelink office though and the jobs advertisements in the media.

Go to the Gold Coast where you will see foreign workers working in the variety of tourism jobs and waiting on the buff, vain young tattooed men and women who are spending their free Centrelink $$ on booze and entertainment. Get a job? Not likely!

So 579 tells us there are lots of unemployed youth in Vic. He quotes,"As Paul Bird from Mission Australia sees it, nine out of ten teens want to get off the dole. But many need significant help if they are ever going to do so – they aren’t punctual, they don’t present well, and they have low literacy and language skills.

Well lady, who's fault is their lousy education? Could it be the union controlled lousy education system? & who was running the schools when these kids went to school. Shock horror, it was Labor.

They don't present well. They can't be bothered to shower, & wear clean clothes you mean. Do you think they are too dumb to know the difference, or know they won't be hired when they present like that. Helps to keep you on the dole, don't you know.

They aren't punctual. That just has to be an accident doesn't it. Nothing to do with being work shy.

You lot must believe the moon is made of green cheese, if you believe that crap.

Onthebeach wrote earlier, "I see plenty of it myself where local builders cannot recruit people locally to turn up for the apprenticeship training and good pay".

I then replied by asking onthebeach to name these "local" builders, so I could ring them and ask them about it, and report the results tomorrow on this forum.

In his reply to that, onthebeach has point blank *REFUSED* to name these local builders. Local builders that onthebeach "claims" he knows of who can't get apprentices employed and to turn up for their "good pay".

Conclusion = onthebeach lied regarding having personal knowledge of these specific "local" builders.