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Problems with the Budget

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All these people following the fashion of bashing Tony Abbott will
discover at sometime in the future that they have missed the point.
When the next GFC, expected shortly after 2017, arrives it will make
the 2008 one look like holiday.
The crash will be very severe here as we will have to absorb ALL the
cost of liquid energy sources. Due to the determination of governments
to ignore the problem of liquid fuel security the crash is likely to
be much worse in Australia than in most other countries.
The only reason we may not have the high cost of liquid fuels will be
because we cannot buy it.

We will not be able to buy fuel unless others agree to surrender some
and go without themselves.
We will in the next couple of years have no operating refineries and
will be importing 100% of our petrol and diesel.

And here you are all raving on about someone trying to get rid of our
debt which if we still have it by 2020 will be unrepayable.
Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 22 May 2014 4:50:19 PM
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Bazz the budget is not about repaying debt, Abbott is not into repaying debt. If Abbott said such a thing it was a lie.
All the budget will do if any gets passed will pave the way for Abbotts agenda.
So don't be fooled Bazz it ain't gonna happen.
The states have been banned from paying down debt. It's all about what Abbott has in mind.
With QLD 85 billion down the hole and Vic in surplus, there is only one state in AU that can survive abbott's onslaught.
Posted by 579, Thursday, 22 May 2014 5:00:58 PM
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Snake – I find the easiest way to define whether someone is productive is to look at what that individual does and imagine how a world full of them would look. If we had a world full of Nichole Kidman’s, we would have a lot of naked, hungry, women with nowhere to live. Nichole Kidman is not productive!

If the same world was populated by dairy farmers, because they produce milk, meat and hides, they would be feed and clothed. Dairy farmers are productive!

Why is it that in our country the productive dairy farmer struggles yet the non-productive actress is doing very well?

I realise this example is very simplistic and there are very complex nuances across a complex global community. The entertainment industry is an ancillary one and can only exist and prosper because other productive ones.

I am not saying that Nichole Kidman should not do what she does, nor am I saying what she does not enhance our society. I do say that she is not entitled to the proportion of the productive wealth she currently receives.

I also say the Dairy Farmer is entitled to more than he currently gets, subject to real (not fiddled with) free market principles. Our current budget position is a direct consequence of this country spending more than the country produces. It is getting worse because it is more rewarding to be a parasite than a producer.

The fundamental issue is the disproportionate distribution of wealth
Posted by Producer, Thursday, 22 May 2014 6:04:37 PM
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Ok, so what's the alternative?

We tried the labor way, they wasted hundreds of billions and left us with unsustainable debt.

So, rather than complain about the budget, why not come up with alternatives.
Posted by rehctub, Thursday, 22 May 2014 6:36:32 PM
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The unemployed ex butcher wrote, "why not come up with alternatives?".

OK here's a great, final alternative ...... AN ELECTION.

Let's have a election NOW.

You'll get all the alternatives spelt out, and the public can make their choice.

This is an "election emergency", because of the *RECORD* lying and deceit of the coalition pre election. The coalition is corrupt regarding honesty.
The last election is morally null and void because of coalition corruption/dishonesty ... the most dishonest government in Australia's history. Let's have a new election, and let the public judge the dishonesty.
Posted by Nhoj, Thursday, 22 May 2014 6:57:54 PM
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Rehctub and Nhoj – We need proportional representation so we get the politicians we vote for. An election under the current system will more than likely end with another minority government with majority power and it will be red or blue.
Posted by Producer, Thursday, 22 May 2014 8:17:25 PM
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