Well, the approach of ANZAC Day is once more nearly upon us, seems to have come around again so very quickly this time ? I was wondering really, is this special day still cogent amongst the ever diminishing Veterans in our community or has it now become more of a celebratory gathering ? Another day off for us all, a chance to watch our favourite footy game, wash the car, mow the lawns etc...?

Or do many of us arise early for the dawn service, and later watch the Veterans as they proudly march by with chests brimming with medals, some with severely bent backs, trying to be held relatively straight, as they march past the haunting spectre of the Cenotaph, in Martin Place ?

Personally, I wonder if this will be my last ANZAC Day ? I now carefully refrain from meeting anybody I served with, and of course I can no longer march anymore. The vociferous 'after march' pilgrimage to the local Pub for our reunion, tends to unnerve me. Whereas in previous years, I really enjoyed it. I wonder what's happened in the intervening years, to precipitate this complete reversal ?

I am expecting sometime soon an edict from On high to be handed down to the effect that ANZAC is too divisive for a multicultural society and should be turned into just another HARMONY DAY.

Think I'm joking...it's probably already on the Human Rights Commission or Multicultural Councils agenda(s)

Dear O Sung Wu,

ANZAC Day - Is it still valid for Veterans?

I can't speak on behalf of Veterans.
However information found on the web tells us
that "record numbers attended ceremonies at the
Australian War Memorial on Anzac Day 2013 with 35,000
attending the Dawn Service, and a further 17,000
attending the National Ceremony."

I think to many Australians Anzac Day goes beyond
the anniversary of the landing in Gallipoli in 1915.
It's more than just a "holiday." It's a day set aside
to remember all Australians who served and died in
all wars, conflicts, and peace keeping operations.

They deserve not to be forgotten.
My father-in-law used to take part in the March
through the city. He passed away some time ago.
However, his legacy lives on in his son and our
children. The human qualities of courage, mateship,
and sacrifice, will continue to have meaning and
relevance for us and our sense of national
identity.

ITS THE LATEST ROMAN SPECICAL
TO KEEP US IN FLIght or flighT MODE

http://rss.infowars.com/20140421_Mon_Alex.mp3

TO MAKE STATE MORE important THAN THE FAMILY

THE GOOD..DIE YOUNG..the mostly didnt die for you
nor jesus..but they died because of stupidity..by the elite
that wasnt really stupid..but what the eliyrtes thought needed be done

when the peasents get above their station
slaughter them by the millions/when has peace ever by war been won?

ONLY THE SCUM LIVES ON AND ON AND ON
[im talking ABOUT THOSE LIVING only because they get regular new organs/from those dna tested..thus the walking corpses..elite still running the same insane end game play....not the bloggers here

Anzac day will always hold a special place in my heart and, if the invited guests ever try to ban that as well, look out I say, but I do agree that they have more than likely got it in their sights.

HERE ARE THE ZOMBIES/they have but briefly/revitalized my soul
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJFJeDZyigM
zombies..BRINGING ON THE REASON of SEASON
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6293&page=11

I WISH I COULD CLEARLY CONVey..how deaD ISNT DEAD
http://www.ghostcircle.com/ebooks/JSM_Ward%20-%20Gone_West.pdf
THAT EVEN IN THEIR DEATHS THEY YET MARCHED INTO WAR
Chapter XXXV The Influence of the War Cloud ............................................................................. 82
Chapter XXXVI The War................................................................................................................. 83
hoW WE NEED TO Let the dead forget
LET THE DEAD TEND THE DEAD..LIFE ENERGY IS ETERNAL
WE ARE ETERNAL LIVING SPIRITS LIVING OUT A MORTAL LIFE TO EXPERIENCE 'DEAD'/CAUSE THE TRUTH IS ENERGY CANT BE CREATED NOIR DESTROYED/NOR CAN THE ELECTICAL ENERGY THAT MEANS YOU ARE YOU... damm caps

i gotta get to nimbin mardigrass
anyone comming down from qld through redlands/just puttin it out there

ohh dear oh song what have you done
[i just got a vision..a funny one..EVERYTIME WE SEE A MEDIA CAMERA GETTING OFF ON OUR GRIEF.. we ok/me..CHuck a raw egg at their big eye MEDIA EYE..distorting THE PEOPLES LAMMENT]

oh dear i can feel another arrest COMMING ON
HECK THESE GRUNTS JUST MIGFHT OFF ME THIS TIME

DO TELL ME WHAT TIME DOES THE FUN BEGIN?

<<>.I wonder what's happened in the intervening years, to precipitate this complete reversal ?
Posted by o sung wu, Monday, 21 April 2014 9:45:43 PM>>

we now know
that ongoing war will never beget any peace

we know no one wins any war
yet that march will be called off[not becausae of protest]but the end time..horse of sickness..with an 18 day incubation period/[who knows if you havnt already been infected]..the horse of sickness from the appoxolips..is off and running..with 18 days grace.

se THE LEADERS NOW KNOW THERE AINT GOING TO BE NO MORE WAR
IN THE END..bringing peace was as easy as doing nuthin at all

john and jokeo/had the bed-in..a great place to begin
or there was the bagism..its a messy disease..it melts us from inside

OK MY INSANITy is limited to words
but other insanity threatens our world
Armageddon is on many folks plan/thinking it wont be them..ha/were all in this together...if we calm our own demons..we can get through this mess easy

but so many thiNK DEAD=DEAD
LET THE DEAD REST IN PEACE[KEEP IT MEDIA FREe]
LETS at least..KEeP IT OFF TV?..

[if you wanna see it/
get out and experience it first hand/or\they cant come and poick you up/they wernt ever reaky yoiur brother/so why bother?

ignbore that black dog..your not folllowing blackie..into that dark night/but there will be one bloke im told waiting/as a special favour to me/that dude i told ya about/..sir laurence of arabia/himself bro..hes the one bringing ya home...be at peace digger/your pasrade of honour awaits your return

if ignore it..understand?

When I was 14 I was a schoolboy cadet, standing proudly with my fully functioning WW11 303 rifle in the honor guard at the Young NSW dawn service.

At 16 I was the cadet officer taking the salute with the honor guard at that dawn parade. I have never been more proud.

A platoon would then lead the parade, & B platoon would push the wheel chairs. That there were so many men, representing so many branches of the defense force in a small country town was really amazing, & humbling.

My father never marched, or even attended. He never mentioned his war, so it was probably pretty bad. He did not have to talk about it, or march, for me to honor him along with all the others.

So o sung wu, I sure hope it is still valid for the Veterans, as it sure is for me.

Hi there SPQR...

In most of those celebratory occasions, like Christmas etc., that which we all hold so dear, I'd have to agree with you. But, do you really believe they'd dare touch, or alter ANZAC day ? Still, you never know do you, nothing is sacred these days I believe ? Let the buggers try, I'd say !

Hi there FOXY...

Yes it's very true what you say about your father-in-law, applies to many veterans, they never wish to speak of the war, or be reminded of the war either ? You can but wonder what horrors they'd faced, during their time ? Military life effects people in different ways I suppose ? I think it's absolutely marvellous many of the young people who are now engaging with their elderly kin, in moments of remembrance, as evidenced by the thousands of young people who accompany their elderly (veteran) kin, turn up for the dawn service.

G'day there REHCTUB...

How's life been treating you now Butch, well I hope ? Yes, you and many millions more, if they ever tried to do away with ANZAC Day ! But as you say, they may still try and have it either greatly modified, or cancelled altogether, because of some alleged lack of interest ? Who knows, the politically correct brigade may give it a go, in the years to come ?

Hi there HASBEEN...

You of all people ANZAC Day must evoke many mixed messages for you and yours ol' mate ? As a fourteen year old, marching along proudly with your serviceable SMLE must have been a real buzz for you eh ? Why did you choose the Navy (as an Aviator) rather than the RAAF pilot training scheme ?

Did you ever manage to speak with your Dad concerning his war service, even though he was not given to ever speak about it ? THe two major wars must have had an enormous and shocking impact upon those involved in it, as was your Dad ? You must have been very, very, proud of him, despite the fact it was never ever spoken of ? My dear father never served. He attempted to enlist in 1940, and was rejected on the grounds he was in an essential industry (farming). Still, he did his bit to the very best of his ability, nevertheless.

I must admit, at aged twelve, I was given the opportunity of firing a No.1 Mk 3 out at the old ANZAC Range, Liverpool. I must admit, as I picked it up and found the thing to be quite heavy I was beginning to have some real trepidation about firing it ! Apart from the incredibly loud 'report' (back in the early fifties, they never wore ear plugs or ear protectors), the recoil was very noticeable too, as it 'bucked' sharply back into the shoulder of those firing it. Anyway, I gave it a go, and as they say the rest is now history ?

Though I no longer associate with any of my old Company mates, I still feel pretty good as I see our old Regt. march past ! Each year the line of marchers, slowly thins out a little. Still,'time waits for no man' as they say eh. ! Thanks for your contribution too ol' friend.

o sung wu,
I will be marching in Sydney on Anzac Day.
I fly out of Mareeba (0400) in the morning in my trusty old 206, refuel at Rockhampton again at Caloundra then Coolangatta and Ballina and finally at Taree before landing at Bankstown.
Usually get in around 1900. Park the plane and arrange for service and fuel up and in bed by 2100.
I spend the next day seeing some old mates who won’t make it to the march and have formal dinner and reunion with my unit at the American Consulate (173 Airborne).
I march with the 2/20 battalion (Changi POWs) as an honor to my father, reunion at the Tatts Club, 2 up at the Australian Hotel in the Rocks (Irish pub) the fly to Mittagong and stay at our family pub (The George) in Picton.
The trip home is via Bathurst, Dubbo, Tamworth, Goondiwindi, Roma, Emerald, Longreach, Cloncurry, Mornington Island, Aurukun, Weipa, Murray Island, Lockhart River and back to Mareeba.
I see old battalion mates in all these places. Probably for the last time.
The old plane is a bit like me now. Hard to get up into the air.
I think its time for both of us to retire.
If they try to close down “The One Day of The Year” they can expect a dying fight from me I can assure you ol’ mate.

THIS PDF..TELLS OF MANY FIRST WORLD WAR DEAD
after them finding out dead aint dead
http://new-birth.net/booklet/Subaltern_Spirit_Land.pdf
..if you really are a 'mate'..dont forget they arnt dead
AND though they live..they were killed as a matter of policy
[with industrialization/they didnt want youth with time on their hands/idol hands and all that right wing paternalism]..SO SEND EM TO DIE[just like herd management/you keep the heifers..READY/TO..BREED
http://board.freedomainradio.com/page/books/the_handbook_of_human_ownership_a_manual_for_new_tax_farmers.html

its hard to comprehend..the ignorance..
behind millions of futile dead..in all wars
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/allwarsarebankerwars.php

we dont even mention the 25 million dead/on the death marches
not the 12 million dead japs killed by napALM.. or how bayer corp made that and the jew gas plus the mustard gas too..its an insult to your mates to glory upon theiR BLOOD GUTS AND GORE

I SEE KIDS WEARING MEDIAL THEY NEVER EARNED
often even copies/yes your great great grand dad died/because he was needlessly killed..on others shores..no Nobel cause..just some elite fool getting his jollies

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landing_at_Suvla_Bay Despite facing light opposition, the landing at Suvla was mismanaged from the outset and quickly reached the same stalemate conditions that prevailed on the Anzac and Helles fronts.

On 15 August, after a week of indecision and inactivity, the British commander at Suvla, Lieutenant-General Sir Frederick Stopford was dismissed. His performance in command was one of the most incompetent feats of generalship of the First World War.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gVnnYUat-Q4

its funny those who glory in others gore
well sad/but they dont see it..20 vets dead by their own hand everyday

if you were really about peace
make swinking wars go away..let the dead tend the dead

o sung wu,
Is Anzac Day still valid for veterans, You bet it is and I trust it will be valid to them forever.

As for me, I am in a new town and will attend the memorial service, watch the march. Don't know yet if I'll go to the local RSL and join them in a beer. But if not I will have a quiet beer at home and raise my glass to honour our diggers.

Like our pioneers, we owe so much to them. Mostly we take it for granted, but it was their blood, sweat and tears that has made this country. Sadly, sometimes I think the polys do their level best to stuff it up.

Having visited the Australian War Memorial, in Canberra, many times it still is a sobering and reflective experience. All Australians should visit there, at least once.

O Sung Wu, unfortunately there will always be wars waging somewhere in the world, or peacekeeping forces somewhere at least.
So there will always be more 'veterans' to keep the Anzac fires burning.

When I first started nursing, I used to care for World War One and Two veterans in their old age, and then moved on to Korean, Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan veterans.
I expect I will be listening to their stories and tending their wounds for many years more.

Hi there BANJO...

I thoroughly agree with your comments associated with the War Memorial in Canberra. Just to quietly stroll through the place is a very moving experience, as one tries to imagine how bad things were in the muddy conditions in the trenches in the Somme and other major battle fronts of WW1. As you say, it's both sobering, and reflective, just trying to imagine what it was like all those years ago now ?

Even if you remain alone on the day, just to pay a solemn homage to those who never returned, is sufficient I believe ? You don't need a loud trumpet or drums, to show how much you value their sacrifice either ?

Hi there SUSEONLINE...

I was a veteran myself, and I can 'never overstate' the value of the care and attention I received from those in the Medical Corps ! Strictly well beyond orders, one of the nurses (a RAAF Flt Lt.Sister) made a personal call home to my mother when I was in Hospital ! Strictly against orders in those days from SV ! I'll never forget the kindness or the risk she took on my behalf ? I love 'em all believe me !

Hi there ONEUNDERGOD...(Johan)

I couldn't agree with you more, when you say many mistakes were made by basically, un-trained and unfit for command, British General's who through arrogance and ignorance caused the deaths of thousands upon thousands of young man on the Western Front ! Still, as they say war is hell, and unfortunately more were still destined to die ? Many thanks for your considerable input, too Johan, and take care.

Hi there CHRISGAFF1000...

Bloody hell mate, I didn't know you were a pilot ! Obviously you have an unrestricted PPL allowing you cross country flights and an IFR instrument rating for your night flying ! Your ETD is 0400k thus you'll be flying IFR for the first couple of hours ? Chris you're absolutely amazing my friend !

Seriously, I managed a (R)PPL with type certifications on 150's, 172's and Piper Tri-Pacer and PA-28's. But it was the cost of solo hours that finally defeated me, and any hope of gaining an unrestricted PPL. I simply couldn't afford it, it was as simple as that. Got my (R)PPL mid 1970's and logged nearly 140hrs solo, with about another 60hrs dual on top of that. An aggregate of a fraction over 200 hours. Failed my medical through an (unremarkable) irregular blood pressure, and surrendered my PPL about the early 1990's. A tale of failure, and hope ?

Mate, please excuse me I'm pretty tired and with this damn cold I might just turn in. As I said Chris, you've astounding me with what you've managed to do, you really have !

i should look more into the fatima timing in relations to this gallipolee distraction.it surely must be linked tO THE UKRANE THING..going by the map]..so why were we in gallipole again

we went there for what?
tO Delineate..or consolidate..ISOLATE..PLEASE DELIBERATE
WHY WERE WE ON THESE..other [peoples] SHORES?
or is it to hide the fact we fought the darkies in south africa/tHE BOAR BORE WAR SORE?

WHY THIS ONE..OF ALL THE BATTLES
WHY AT THIS TIME AGAIN..THIS OBSESSION OF THE JEWS RE RUSSIA>

damm caps.

but we went to invade turkey..because it was....?
why THIS BATTLE/ that wasnt ever reall fought/in the end we slunk away like thieves ion the night/just like we shall in ukraine/funny how the same shhh it comes around again and again

fly safe chris..see you at the parade/i will be the egg thrower.
cheers eh..have a good parade..its time to end the charade..

why did we try to invade turks?
what was going on at the same time accross the waters of that inland sea..CONTROLLED..now BY TUR*KEY?

WHY WERE WE INVADING OTHERS HOMES?
AND HISTORY IS ABOUT TO REPEAT
http://rt.com/news/154432-coal-miners-strike-ukraine/
http://xrepublic.tv/node/8571

The trouble with Anzac Day and ALL veterans days, which are celebrated in virtually ALL countries, is that the veterans are always applauded and never criticized. And EVERY country considers "their" military veterans to be heroes, regardless of the rights or wrongs of any conflict. Australia is no different. It's utter brainwashing of the population.

Australia has fought in many VERY questionable wars. The same applies to Russia, North Korea, America, Peru, Germany, Indonesia ... the list is almost endless.

We are not always the good guys vs the bad guys. Blindly fighting under the Australian name just because you're in the military and the country is in a war is NOT something to be applauded. The military culture applauds a non thinking, passive mind that simply does as it's told. This passive "discipline" is paramount in the military of ALL countries, otherwise the military would fall apart.

It displays how primitive our species remains. Mankind has a very long way to go before our aggressive, territorial instincts are overcome. I'd be surprised if mankind can achieve this within the next 10,000 years. We simply remain too primitive. The fighting and squabbling withing the insect world, fish world, ape world, bird world etc etc etc is no more primitive than the fighting and squabbling within the h o m o sapiens world.

Good evening to you NHOJ...

Thank you for your contribution to this particular Topic, be assured it's very much appreciated, believe me.