Few are aware, myself included until recently, that if you take your ride on mower on the road OR FOOTPATH, even in the act of loading/unloading from a trailer, you are breaking the law and can be charged with an offense of operating an unregistered vehicle.

The law states (at least in QLD) that to operate a ride on mower on any part of the road, or a council regulated area, such as a footpath, you have to have a limited registration, which costs about $150 per annum.

So, what I want to know, is why are push bikes exempt, as they would outnumber rideons on our roads by millions and are involved in accidents almost on a daily basis.

Butch I can't understand all the fuss.

Butch on his mower! LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZfVnidK050

Anybody who has tried to use a motorised skateboard, or a power assisted bicycle are aware of this law. Internal combustion mopeds under 50cc's used to not require registration.

There is a power restriction of however many watts for electric bicycles as well.

Old news, I'm afraid.

There is a charming/cloying film "straight story" however, about a gentleman undertaking a road trip on his mower. I quite liked it at the time, though I think it is set in the USA.

Rusty.

,,..<<..So, what I want to know, is why are push bikes exempt,..>>

So, what I want to know, is why are push mowers ARE exempt
it might have something to do with the motor..or THEM SHARP THINGS SWIRLING around under it..FIRST they came for the bikies..next they went for tHE MOWER POWERS..BUT THEY REDIRECTED THE OPPRESSION BACK TO BIKE RIDERS..

ANYHOW..ITS GOOD TO SEE the protest movement..is growning
here i came up with a SLOGAN..

so dont mow..let it grow

dont expect sanity..in times OF INSANITY

possibly the story of how you found out is..more interesting than WHETHER IT ACTUALLY HAPPEND TO YOU..if so by who..

[if councIL..YOU MUST SEE That the states
did this via the transportation act..FOR THE RAISING OF REVENUE OR INSURANCE..the law only applies to 'persons'..IN THE ACT..THERE Wil be words to the affect of 'peRSONS INCLUDE CORPORATIONS [INCLUDE IS ONE OF THEm funny law terms..and INCLUSION EXCLUDES ALL ELSE..THUS ONLY APPLIES TO 'persons/ie govt fictions CREATED/UNDER THE ACT.

anyhow if a copper did it..its an awareness campaign/
AND Your chosen..to blog about..it unpaid..thus BLAME THE LOCAL Sgt for raising it at the morning briefing..and the copper 'doing his duty'

on the other hand..if DONE BY COUNCIL OFFICER/THEY ARE DRUMMING UP PUBLIC OPINION..as that law AFFECTS THE COUNCILS Mowing the overgrown paths..and main roads wants that 'jOB'..

is this THE BEST TOPIC WE GOT?

Registration was supposed to be steadied in Qld or so at least forgotten how to do Campbell Newman told us before the elction. I think he needs a good reminder at the next election.
registration is out of hand in this State.

I'm with you there Indi, it is getting outmof hand. I mean, how ridiculous can it be to expect a person to register their mower just so they can offload it from a trailer. I guess if you were going done to the local shops I could understand, but in the footpath! What's next!

rehctub,

Blame it on the whingers and the litigious.

A fellow boatie who wore his overalls to the shops recently was accosted by a woman who demanded to be 'informed'(!) if some broken vinyl floor tiles in building rubble in a skip were 'asbestos'. Taken aback, he asked why and of course she was just one of the many serial nuisances out to make a bit of trouble for a tradie that day. The sort of person who would have a fit and ring 'someone' about your mower.

On the other hand consider the contractor who mows near us. With his hearing protection and highly mobile, noisy machinery he is always 'in the zone'. Of course there are many stupid pedestrians do not give him a wide berth. Some even try to walk past him while he is circling objects.

The Nanny State is 'necessary' because people can't take care of themselves because they are used to living in a Nanny State. Welcome to modern Oz: 98% urbanites and many couldn't survive a fortnight without Centrelink, Coles and their government minders.

You're right OTB, but what does registering a ride in mower have to do with public safety, because to be a contractor these days, one already has to have public liability insurance, which is also there to protect the idiots you speak of. The problem is, you can't legislate against stupidity, so we all pay.

My main point of this thread, is why do we need rego for a ride on, but not a push bike?

Because after all, a push bike is a means of transport and, it is allowed on most roads, in all states. It just doesn't make sense to me.

I'd like to know if anyone can actually put some light on this as there appears to be a huge lack of consistency in these laws.

Is it just revenue raising perhaps!

I thought the law was the norm. Maybe it's a case of not knowing the law. Anything over so many cc's have to have permits to enter public property. Small fish,

Well, until there's some sign of improvement don't know how to do it Campbell is not receiving any support from me anymore. I gave all I had to help get rid of the morons but not to be replaced by what we have now. I say get your butt into gear Clive.

Hey rehctub, is this some new law, or one we've had for years, that sensible coppers just ignore? Individual same thing, are you sure this is down to the new government, it's probably years old. Perhaps we need a regulations bonfire up here to compliment Abbotts efforts there.

If it starts to be enforced the councils are going to need a workforce of millions to mow all the verges & footpaths, [what are they, I can't remember seeing one of them around here] or suburbia will really become an urban jungle. well it would if it ever rains again.

Hasbeen,
Yes, you do have a point there. In my outfit we have the decision makers who are still vehemment ALP & they are not changing their destructive & divisive ways. My gripes is why doesn't can do get rid of them ? I have spoken with many blue collar lads who had workmates put off yet the ALP cronies bureaucrats are still there stuffing it all up. I say do your job Campbell or move over.

<< My main point of this thread, is why do we need rego for a ride on, but not a push bike? >>

Rehctub, I think that’s rather obvious.

We don’t want unregistered powered vehicles using our roads, or footpaths, do we? But we do want to encourage people to get out of their cars on their bikes.

Why should bicycles be treated in the same way as ride-on lawnmowers, or golf buggies or mopeds or hovercrafts….. ?

Ok, it becomes a little less clear when we have bicycles with little electric or two-stroke motors on them.

But as for ride-on mowers; it is clear-cut to me – they much be registered if they are going to be driven down the street.

As for offloading one from trailer onto the road or footpath out the front of your house and then driving it three metres along the road or footpath and down your driveway; it might technically be illegal, but in reality are you ever likely to run up against the law for doing that? I doubt it very much.

"The art of taxation consists in so plucking the goose as to obtain the largest possible amount of feathers with the smallest possible amount of hissing" (J B Colbert)

Never fear, where there are incompetent, big-spending government governments as Anna Bligh's Labor government was in Queensland, more revenue raisers like the registration of bicycles are on the cards. Among other tax initiatives and sale of assets Anna Bligh did bring in registration of pussies. Cyclists can be similarly demonised and reasons found for State control with new taxes to apply of course. -Just saying that where there is a need for more money government will find an excuse.

Luddy how are people going to mow the road verge, or in more extreme cases, like some of my neighbors slash the things, if we are not allowed to ride the mower on them.

Mine is 340 yards long, & 15ft wide in some places. I can't walk 100 yards these days, let alone push a fool mower, even if I had one.

On the other hand push bikes are a dam sight worse than mowers, & cause more death & injury than guns ever did. They are nothing but a hindrance on the roads.

Come the revolution we will crush the lot of them, just like Howard did with those lovely guns.

But Haz, road verge is different to footpath. Of course we are allowed to mow our road verge, even though it is council property.

Everyone in my area does it, ‘cept my fool next-door neighbour who reckons it’s the council’s job. Consequently every wet season it becomes rank with tall grass and weeds. Then eventually the council comes along and slashes it!! ( :> /

Of course we are allowed to mow our roadverge with a ride-on mower.

If you get knocked down and injured by somebody in a motorised wheelchair in a shopping centre, who is responsible?

The Shopping Centre owner? Probably not - it wasn't their negligence that caused it. Their duty of care and public liabililty probably wouldn't go that far. Some even provide motorised scooters for their customers.

The wheelchair driver? Probably, but they wouldn't have any accident insurance because their vehicle is not registered.

That's why ride-on mowers are supposed to be registered.

Don't be so damn silly wobbles, to be registered a thing has to be roadworthy. There are very few mowers that could ever get a roadworthy certificate.

Rehctub is talking about some limited form of registration, the sort of stupidity that only a council could ever come up with.

Wobbles, in answer t your question, the shopping centre is liable for all public safety, both within, and on the grounds, of the shopping centre. But domt worry, because ultimately it's the tenants that foot the bill because apart from land tax, every bill incurred by the centre gets passed on, usually after it's been added to. That's why rents are so dear now and why small retail is buckling.

As for the lawn mower hitting someone, what happens when a push bike runs over someone. They don't have PL insurance, nor do the have rego, which carries third party insurance.

Sorry, but I think the law is ridiculous to the extreme.

You can tell where I live because the grass that belongs to the council, along the "footpath" is never cut unless they do it.
I don't own the land so I don't have any responsibility to cut the grass.