Some must be shell shocked with that YouTube of THE GREENS Scott Ludlam's hitting over 500,000. The reactionaries in the WA Labor Party are now talking about preferencing the Liberals. Some still need to wake up to the Labor right, take that pair of sellouts, Paul Howes and Martin Ferguson, a couple of Uncle Tom's if ever there were. These people do not represent the ideals and aspirations of ordinary working Australians, ready to embrace Abbott's 'Work Choices' at the drop of a hat. These grubs and other Labor sicko's are as big a danger to the rights of workers as any Abbott or Howard could ever be. Give me a Penny Wong or Doug Cameron over these fools any day.

"By the looks of the pic in the following story Gina hasn't gone short of a feed lately." http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6275#184236

Paul I'm guessing that comment wasn't intended as a compliment referencing the healthy sheen in Gina's complexion.

I thought that comments about a woman's appearance were off limit's and it was always supposed to be about what they have to say rather than how they look. Is not the way it works? That seemed to be the rule behind claims of sexism when comments about Julia Gillard included any reference to her appearance.

At least Clives not the only one to face snide references to eating habits.

R0bert

R0bert,

Nothing to do with "compliment" it all about productivity. I am concerned that Gina may not be able to do that "fair days work" in her present condition. She is concerned about people on welfare not being productive and doing a fair days work. I want Gina setting a good example, in peak condition to show how productive she can be. Clive is also a concern. Tony is in shape, just check him out in his budgie smugglers, I can see him doing a doubler down the coal mine any day of the week! No problem. However poor Gina and Clive might not make it to smoko! Bill looks a right off as well, wouldn't make it past lunch, the 3 of em would pull a sick'y and go home for the arvo. Now that would be very poor productivity indeed, and we can't have that. We need these people in peak physical condition to lead by example. LOL.

Tony Lavis, while I agree you work twice as hard on weekends, what about quiet weekends when you have very few, if any customers. Would it be fair to suggest you get half your regular pay if you serve half the amount of people, or less.

In a perfect world, you should get paid by the volume of meals you create, on a bonus system whereby you get a very moderate wage, then bonuses calculated on the numbers yo pu produce. It's called, reward for ones effort, not appearance money as is often the case today.

In the modern day butcher shop, weekend sales can fluctuate by as much as 40%. so on busy days yournstaffing costs (as a %) are low, visa versa on quiet days. It sucks both ways.

wobbles, if you are really concerned about traditional family time, get rid of extended trading hours, especially Sundays. Otherwise there's an imbalance to that argument.

.....Do we really want a society of a low paid underclass relying on tips to survive?
Chances are it will come to that, besides, what's wrong with rewarding best efforts? Because at the moment, few see best effort was worth it, especially when the poorer worker gets the same pay rate.

rache, if you want economic stimulus, fix the tax system, because at the moment it's a deterrent. Last pay I paid $1800 in tax. A TT tax would have seen me pay just $100. The rest would have stimulated the economy.

Paul, if a business pays an extra dollar out for a worker, surely they are entitled to a dollar extra for themselves.

As for apple, a TT tax would have stopped that alleged rip off.

...So please tell me chris how do i achieve this work harder part ?
It's called education Aussieboy, it should lead to a better paid job.

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Butch, 'Apply' that is why big business don't want a turnover tax, they might have to actually start paying their fair share. As for small business the cash economy is ripping anything from $5 to 57 billion from tax, something governments are loath to attack.
Sunday trading is booming, with so many working families, the big retailers in the regional shopping centers take in a motza on weekends, that extra dollar you speak of. As I pointed out earlier, the actual amount paid out in penalty rates by big retailers like supermarkets etc is relatively small, besides weekends is the time they bring in the kids on minimal pay.
Put it to the big retailers to stop Sunday trading and see the reaction.
A novel approach to wages there Butch. the new pay rates
$5 hr Sunny rate
$4 hr Cloudy rate
$3 hr Windy rate
Zilch its bloody raining!

"what's wrong with rewarding best efforts?" Nothing, Naturally the boss is the one to do the calculation.

"on a bonus system whereby you get a very moderate wage, then bonuses calculated on the numbers you produce. It's called, reward for ones effort" Again all to be determined by the boss, leads to a lot of effort and little reward. That moderate (low) wage soon becomes the standard for all.

Paul I agree that they are a bit of a joke but there is a serious side to my point. There is a big double standard from the left when it comes to using someone's appearance (or personal life choices) when making a point that's not strictly about them. Sidestep it if you'd rather not face it but the outraged cries of sexism when Julia's shape was mentioned by her opponents stand in stark contrast to the willingness to dig at Clive and Gina's shapes or the routine references to Tony's budgie smugglers.

Reality is it's mostly not sexism, just a way of having a dig at someone people don't like for some other reason. There are exceptions no doubt but the exceptions don't make the rule.

I suspect that most of us do to an extent apply our own values about body shape, personal life choices etc when we evaluate public figures no matter how we'd like to think we evaluate them. I don't have a lot of respect for the choices of those who could afford a team of personal trainers, dieticians etc. to allow them selves to run to what is a high level of obesity but that's their choice and given their wealth unlikely to ever be a drain on my taxes.

I'm more bothered by the tendency of the mega rich to grab more and more at the expense of others with access to a lot less individual power.

Digs about their appearance are sometimes very funny but not so much when some are more protected from it than others.

R0bert