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Obscene penalty rates in 2014
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Posted by individual, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 10:15:15 PM
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Paul, i have often wondered myself about cash only businesses, and yes, I do agree that many are cheating taxes, but some also don't want to pay the fees. A transaction tax would also address this problem.
As for unpaid work, you need to look at the whole story, not just a part of it. For example, how much of that unpaid time is used for the likes of smoke breaks, or, checking personal emails, send/forwarding funnies, Facebook etc. Do you think its only fair that any paid hours used on these time outs be made up? Sickies should also be taken into account if you really want to be serious. I think if you took this time into account, the result would be way different. Posted by rehctub, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 10:00:58 AM
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THE REAL PROBLEM..ISNT WAGES
Cost of a pint rises by 1,948% since 1973 thanks to inflation – but can you guess what has soared even faster? http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/article-2574890/Cost-pint-rises-1-948-1973-inflation-says-Lloyds.html The value of money has shrunk so rapidly over the last 40 years that a pound in 1973 is worth the equivalent of just nine pence today, a new study has found. Decades of inflation have meant the price of a pint of lager is now 20 times what it was 40 years ago. It may be hard to believe at a time when a pint costs around £2.87, but in 1973 you would only have to shell out 14 pence for one, according to Lloyds Bank’s analysis of Office for National Statistics figures. Yet even the rise in the cost of beer can't beat gold's performance. While decades of inflation have seen the cost of everything rise over the past four decades, some items have seen price rises off the scale. The greatest increase by far has been the price of gold – at a rate even faster than lager. While a Troy Ounce will cost you around £1,051 today, in 1973 it would have cost you a mere £34. This is an increase of an incredible 2,952 per cent. http://www.bobtuskin.com/2014/03/10/social-engineering-in-the-hunger-games/ MY WORKING THEORY IS DRUG EM TO THE EYEBALLS then..work thEM INTO EARLY GRAVES.. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2577814/The-eminent-doctor-convinced-ad-hd-doesnt-exist-In-fact-says-Dr-RICHARD-SAUL-symptoms-routine-causes-drugs-harm-good.html http://www.blacklistednews.com/We_Are_In_FAR_Worse_Shape_Than_We_Were_Just_Prior_To_The_Last_Great_Financial_Crisis/33554/0/38/38/Y/M.html Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 8:14:12 PM
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Indi,
You are sure down on public servants, did one book you for not carrying you dog license or something? Lets hope none of these tax dodging take-away owners ever consume their own cooking. Who knows, they are just as likely then to need a public funded ambulance to cart them off to the nearest public funded hospital for a public funded stomach pumping. According to stats these tax shonky small business kill plenty each year. If they paid their taxes then maybe we could afford more Food Inspectors to catch em in their cockroach canteens! Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 8:47:34 PM
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You are sure down on public servants,
Paul1405, I work with them on an hourly basis & therefore witness the waste on an hourly basis & the incompetence on an hourly basis. They have the audacity to just increase fees whenever they feel they're running low on funds to prevent a domino effect. Govt charges are at an immoral high as are the salaries & conditions for the parsites that are bureaucrats. There are many in the public service who do important & valuable work but they're not found amongst the bureaucrats & they're the ones I'm on about. As I said I experience them on an hourly basis. Posted by individual, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 9:38:11 PM
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Butch you are right, not often I admit you are right, but in this case you are right. Not all unpaid O/T is simply exploration, quite to the contrary;
"For example, how much of that unpaid time is used for the likes of smoke breaks, or, checking personal emails, send/forwarding funnies, Facebook etc" I have worked with, and been in charge of, "office types" who are to say the least, lazy. People who habitually arrive 15 minutes late for work, kings and queens of the long lunch break, coffee breaks, smokos, phone calls, yes internet. These are the same "would-be's if they could be's" who will hang around after normal work hours, trying to "catch up" on unfinished work, and gas bagging, work they should have done through the day instead of etc etc. All I can say about them is they ought to "get a life, do their job, and get home" These very people are often anti union, but have a distorted sense of entitlement and self worth, get better pay and conditions than those at the coal face, the real workers, but begrudge real works the little they do get. I personally came up through the ranks, so seen both sides of the coin, a bit old school, like my old man. Unfortunately most I refer to, never seen anything other than the rarefied atmosphere of the office, so had no idea as to what real work was. could tell you some stories about people that you would not believe, and they were not public servants, but people employed in private enterprise. I'm much more concerned about exploitation of out workers and kids that the under worked and overpaid office types. Indi, I don't doubt you for a minute about those bureaucratic public servant, but sadly their identical twin brothers and sisters also work in private enterprise. Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 13 March 2014 7:26:31 AM
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Paul1405,
Giving good taxpayers money for absolutely nothing in return to bureaucrats is not shonky ripping off ?
I think it's way more immoral.