Steven is a heavy weight in the right faction of the ALP.
And in my view lead in the saddle bags of the ALP.
Why would I think that?
Well he helped dump Rudd, and left this country during the recent election.
His hostile and out of control motor mouth acts come often.
He has been reported in the press as being less than impressed at Labors brief false start at reform, letting the rank and file vote for a leader.
Even if he knew the intention was to window dress, let us vote for one then role him!
Labor just must confront this fact.
True believers are not moving.
We must impress those who did not vote for us, Conroy fails that duty every time he speaks.
Shorten a fellow right wing Victorian power broker, saw the result of talking to true believers and ignoring our target, those we must see voting for us.
He blatantly opposed a inquiry in to unions.
Unaware it seems, for such a brilliant ,man, that both unions and party lost by his actions and words.
While the true believers hum solidarity forever, those we must win over gave Bill the long drop.
So how is this Conroy, a clear and habitual scorer of own goals of use to us?
He drives more away than he brings to us he would be dropped by any football coach for his form why do we keep him?
Shorten is lifting and IF he and the party remember we are being judged on our every action by those who we know we need?
Get Conroy a job, out of Federal parliament preferred.

I do not think the man would last minutes in the team of Howard or Hawk.
His recent insulting and needless attack on a senior military man was bound to offend far more than the number his action impressed.
Again a wise party considers all points of view and try,s to win over more than it turns away.

A question could be asked *why the secrecy* but not of a man bound by the rules of his calling to serve the country
Some seem to admire the bully boy tough nut style but in this case the man is a parody of that image.
He should remember his audience is or should be the whole electorate, not the 32 percent who put Labor first last time.

Belly,

I certainly must now give you credit for acknowledging the failures of your party.

On my part I am happy for him to remain as a vocal member of the ALP, as he normally shoots himself in the foot before putting it in his mouth.

Putting the Navy and military in charge of the operation was a master stroke both operationally and politically. Operationally because the military can be relied on to do what is required with integrity and keep their mouths shut. Politically, it put the operation in the hands of a deeply respected institution that is almost beyond reproach. However, the coalition, even in its wildest dreams, did not anticipate the supreme idiocy of Labor's shadow defense minister Conroy. If Morrison had a neon sigh saying "This is a trap" it could not have been more obvious especially after the ABC blunder.

Having already left behind a stinking pile of Dung in the NBN, Conroy in his new defense portfolio launches a planned all out attack on the integrity of a hero and a man with a brilliant record. If he had called Mother Teresa a prostitute he could not have offended more people, especially those in defense that he represents.

The next early Xmas present is from Shorten, who being from the left relies on support from the right faction which is represented by Conroy. What is needed is an apology from Conroy, which he is stubbornly refusing to give, and without it the beating will continue. Just remember Thomson.

Shadow Minister thanks but too know love and a total commitment drives my actions.

He wants to impress on us he is a thug, an educated and sophisticated one but still, while not achieving it that is his style.
I know, *surely the world does?*
My party is suffering from its last 6 years ,its internal white ants and its owners *faction lords*
NSW is a filthy word to great numbers of *active ALP members*know it
And Shortens brief waddle away from reality, his denial of problems in the union movement bought a huge fall in his personal popularity.
recent rise came more as a result of fearing Abbott than liking Bill.
Some one has to confront the aging nature of Labors membership.
Men like this fool Conroy are to blame.
A power broker he over see.s who gets to run for seats and fill the benches with warn out ex union officials who, for the most part know nothing other than to sit down and do as he says.
I feel my private life is suffering because some disagree with my stand demanding true reform and refocus on all Australians not just members.
It remains true we are confronting a year in Hell, Tasmania is lost,for a very long time.
South Australia is too.
NSW FILTH is getting near a hopeful long term prison sentence, [remember however money buys justice]
Thomson too.
A disturbing e mail warns the AWU [not true we informed] Scandal is about to reemerge too.
A Hellish year for us *the true believers*
Who had no role in any of this,Conroy and his like do have roles, if only the attempt to distract every one and cover up our visit to Hell.
It is time we opened up, shouted our true rage and made our voices heard.
Some gee more than most know, are saying in private what I say but.

Labor has a fight on its hands to defend every thing we stand for against a rampant Abbott/Murdock.
Those who think truth is not our most valuable weapon in that fight are yesterdays men/women

Dear Belly,

The following link presents an interesting perspective.
Of Course it's not from The Australian, or any of the
Murdoch news outlets so it won't be acceptable to many
of our posters on this forum who only regard the mainstream
media as "reputable." However, it's worth a read and it
sums things up rather well:

"Public accountability does not stop when men in uniforms
get involved. Given the scandal-prone recent history of
the Australian Defence Force, that's just as well.
General Campbell has many questions to answer. Labor and the
Greens should keep asking them."

http://newmatilda.com/2014/02/27/operational-security-charade

BTW: Quoting another political commentator:

" Our governments are at their best when there is a
vehement contest of ideas...when individuals dissent with the
policies adopted. The strongly argued dissenting case is one
of the great contributions a politician can make to posterity
and to future good policy..."

Only the very, very foolish would continue Foxy's Teflon Tactic of deflecting everything and then repeat the endless broken record (anything does):

Teflon->Broken record->Teflon->Broken record.

Of course the Greens would dearly like Labor to follow someone like (say) Mark Latham with his

Teflon->Angry abuse->Teflon->Angry abuse,

all in a continuous loop.

The chickens always come home to roost.