Foxy,

I can see why you like the New Matilda, you have to look hard to find an author delusional enough to think that the Australian military is "scandal prone" and thus lies about everything, and that calling a upstanding man a liar is a good thing.

Let me get this straight.

You're all for "freedom of speech," except when it suits
you not to be. Then you stoop to personal insults
and the usual accusations. Well, a person has been killed while
in the government's care and the public has a right to know
why this happened, and ensure that it doesn't happen
again. And asking for public accountability seems to be
something we should be debating, as well as asking questions
that need answers. We should not be wasting time in a
political tit-for-tat.

cont'd ...

SM,

Your slurs about New Matilda don't actually wash.
And your reference to them lying about ADF - being
scadal prone - is particularly silly. I don't know
where you do your research but all you had to do is
Google the subject and there's quite a few websites
to choose from on the scandals involving the ADF.
Here's just one"

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/adf-fails-to-shake-its-demons-20130613-2o756.html

Once again, Foxy is dragging a red herring up a dry gulley somewhere.

However, returning to the subject of the thread, it is plain that Belly is right in wishing along with Bill Shorten and others that Conroy would control his mouth. While Greens will be stirring against both sides, it is Labor they really target and undermine to steal their votes.

On Conroy,
<BILL Shorten has extended an olive branch to the senior military official Stephen Conroy accused of taking part in a political cover-up, an attack that has left Labor’s deputy Senate leader facing government demands that he apologise for his remarks, and a rebuke from parliament.

But the Opposition Leader opposed a motion yesterday by Tasmanian independent Andrew Wilkie to “admonish” Senator Conroy over his attack and has refused to make him apologise, arguing that his withdrawal of the remarks is enough.

Defence Force Chief David Hurley said he was surprised at the accusations Senator Conroy made against General Campbell.

“I am pleased these accusations were withdrawn, but unfortunately, once said, the shadow will linger,” General Hurley said.

“Lieutenant General Campbell has a reputation in Canberra, more widely in Australia and overseas of integrity, intellect and studied impartiality.

“He is widely respected across Australia’s political divide.”

As former Labor defence minister Joel Fitzgibbon offered only a guarded defence of Senator Conroy, Mr Shorten said that he had moved to contact General Campbell to express his support and respect.>

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/troops-turn-on-unapologetic-stephen-conroy/story-fn59niix-1226838741648#

One can always expect any issue to bring out the activists and where the ADF is concerned there are some well known pacifist and other activist groups who put their oar in. Goodness knows where the activists loyalties are and many are influenced by Marxism.

A Labor State member who got rolled in 2011, once said to me Conroy is so far right he should quit Labor and join the Liberal Party. I know they have The Mad Monk and Fatty O'Barrell as members, but I think even the Liberals would have to draw the line with Conroy.

@Paul1405, Friday, 28 February 2014 8:29:36 PM

LOL Of course you heard some Labor person say that. Tell us another one do please do.

There are a few of Greens on here who give Labor heaps of stick while cozying up to the Labor stalwarts who apparently would would never wake up even if a brick Council dunny fell on them.

Greens supporters ape the foxy Bob Brown et al who who would put on an *expletive*-eating grin and shove a crate of pineapples up Labor PM Julia Gillard's ample derriere while superficially scolding the LNP. It worked time and time again. Sucker punches, Greens style.

The Greens' target is Labor. The political 'Progressives' target is Labor too and they have done a takeover of the leadership. All that remains is for the wolves in sheep's clothing, the political 'Progressives' and the lunar Greens to dig holes under each other. To make it a three-way, the unions are having a go.