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Posted by one under god, Sunday, 2 March 2014 9:01:59 PM
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Dear Jayb,
I wonder why Western culture overemphasises the importance of life (in the biological sense) to the point of obsession. While you are trying to push OUG to the wall, you omitted crucial information: other than biological survival, you failed to mention anything about the QUALITY of life after taking the magic potion and how it stands in comparison with that "horrible" disease. Also, what actually is it that makes the disease horrible - is it just the fact of death or is there some other factor? have you considered that what is 'horrible' for one is not that horrible for another? For example, if one is a farmer, then losing a finger is not the end of the world, but if one is a musician playing an instrument, then one has lost their purpose to live. It is wrong to assume that the effects and risks of vaccination are the same for everyone. I therefore believe that OUG deserves more information before s/he can answer your question. Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 2 March 2014 9:03:04 PM
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Ok then, let's do it again.
If you were with a group of, say 50 people & you are very likely to contract a horrible disease. I have a magic potion that if taken will save 49 of you. One will die & one will be slightly affected mentally. If not taken 48 will die & one will live in a vegetative state & one will survive unharmed, apart from a few physical markings on their face. (that's for the girls) The choice is yours. Do YOU take the magic potion? You could be the one to die. Of course if you don't take it, you maybe the one to live. Will YOU take the gamble? Yes or No. No deflection, please. Yuyutsu: is it just the fact of death or is there some other factor? You are reading too much into it. Posted by Jayb, Sunday, 2 March 2014 9:42:35 PM
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Ok then,
let's do it..again. <,..If you..were with..a group of,..say 50 people..& you.are very likely..to contract a horrible disease.>>.. so all things being equal/we all are..the same/ris.. so the question is..50 PEOPLE ARE LIKELY..TO GET SICK..[sorry not sick..LIKELY..TO contract..a horrible disease.]..CAUSE WE all slept with loki/..who has..[MAYBE]..GIFTED/US..aids BUT WAIT,,SAY'S JAB <<..I have a magic potion..that if taken..will save..49 of you. One will die..&..one will be slightly affected mentally.>> OK FAIR ENOUGH....[ITS CLEARLY MAJIC].. LIKE THE 11 Toe thing.YET.by my math 50/minus one dead/and one slightly retarded=2 IE.ONLY 48..ARE SAVED*/..NOT 49 BUT LEts ignore..that as irrelevance too <<..If not taken.48 will>>..*LIKELY*..TO<<.die &>> HOW OLD.ARE THESE 48..THE TWO SURVIVING..how long..wilL THEY SURVIVe? no 'majic formula"..works by magic IT WORKS BY SCIENCE-FACT..[Reportedly]..so science someHOW KNOWS..THIS BE-CAUSE IT FIELD TESTED THIS IN india/or in a Chinese prison..or Aussie hospital..where thousands die..so the elite SCUM can get their..'safe dosage/and the scum..get..the cheap hot shot with..YOUR MAJIC Elixir..<<..one will live..in a vegetative state &..one will survive unharmed,>>STAtisticly..<<....apart from a few physical markings..on their face...(that's for the girls)>>[and..ALL THE BOYS TESTES..[Likely]..ROT AND FALL OFF] <<..The choice is yours..Do YOU take..the magic potion?>> yet again/let me say it..no*..NO..!..NO/WAY YOUR ASKING..THE WRONG GUY..JAY <<You could/be>>..[likeLY]..?..<<..the one to die.>. SO WHAT/..ITS NO GREAT GIFT LIVING AS..THSE SCUM..HERE..IN YOUR MATERIALIST/transcribed HELL <<.. Of course if*..you don't take it,..you maybe the one to live.>> YEP WITH MY LUCK..YOUR LIKELY*...2b..CORRECT <<..Will YOU take..the gamble?.. Yes or No. No deflection, please.>> n0 nO nooooO../no/..nIET nein nyet..non..[NOT EVEN TEMPTED] i dont gamble..you cant..even ensure/..*WHO DIES/LIVES [CAUSE IF YOU CAN*.chose to save..'me'..you could further chose to not*..save me/too.. [you cant say.which 48]..so lets stop/the pre-hence then you miss-qUOTE....Yuyutsu:<<..is it just.the fact of death or is there..some other factor?>>DEATH IS THE LIE..[WHERE/THY..STING?] DEATH IS THE LIE..WE ARE ETERNAL IMMORTAL SPIRITS[ENERGY]..HAVING A MORTAL LIFE 'EXPERIENCE'..WE ARE ETERNAL...ENERGIES..*CHANGING STATE..[energy cant be created.nor destroyed..by any..'majic'/portant/potion or..TRICKERY YES I KNOW.WHAT JASY..IS GETTING AT BUT THE faith..in a MAGIC BULLET..DIRECTLY..*CAUSED..[SIC*]..*/..the SUPER BUGS..\* Posted by one under god, Sunday, 2 March 2014 10:42:42 PM
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Oneundergod, it sounds like you have been having a terrible time with your health lately.
I'm sorry to hear that, especially the dentist problems... Be thankful for all the drug companies that came up with the narcotics and anesthetic medications used for pain relief in dentistry, and at the same time be aware there are good and bad in every profession. Not all pharmacists, doctors, dentists, nurses or drug companies are out to get you Oneundergod. In fact, I would wager that the vast majority are there to do good. Posted by Suseonline, Sunday, 2 March 2014 11:26:54 PM
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http://www.google.com.au/search?q=DOSE+needed+to+treAT++NUMBER&i
THERE IS A SPECIAL NUMBER MEDICINE DONT LIKE TO talk about the numbers needed tO BE TREATED/TO Obtain..one cure [i recall with stroke medication..for example..180 need to take the billion dollar subsidized MEDICINE..FOR ONE CURE* so 180 have adverse reaction..FOR ONE CURE ITS INSANE.. GOVT IS throwing money away slow killing us when all they need do is look at the numbers.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_needed_to_treat The number needed to treat (NNT) is an epidemiological measure used in assessing the effectiveness of a health-care intervention, typically a treatment with medication. The NNT is the average number of patients who need to be treated to prevent one additional bad outcome (i.e. the number of patients that need to be treated for one to benefit compared with a control in a clinical trial). It is defined as the inverse of the absolute risk reduction. It was described in 1988.[1] The ideal NNT is 1, where everyone improves with treatment and no one improves with control. The higher the NNT, the less effective is the treatment http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_needed_to_harm The number needed to harm (NNH) is an epidemiological measure that indicates how many patients need to be exposed to a risk-factor over a specific period to cause harm in one patient that would not otherwise have been harmed.[1] It is defined as the inverse of the attributable risk. Intuitively, the lower the number needed to harm, the worse the risk-factor. GOVT POLICY IS RE DUMBING/US DOWN http://www.google.com.au/search?q=dumbing+sown+education&i cure ignorance..GET Educated healthy mind-healthy body http://www.cochrane.org/glossary Posted by one under god, Sunday, 2 March 2014 11:58:13 PM
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donT GO TO WORK/PLAy nor holiday/dont go out dont dont go to weddings births nor DEATHS..I GET UP IN THE MORNING AND BLOG..eat blog..drink blog..so if 49PEOPLE LIVE CAUSE I DIE..GREAT..SIGn me up.
THE TROUBLE IS ITS NOT THAT SIMPLE..[REMEMBER 3 OUT OF 4 OF US SIMPLY CANNOT 'GET CANCER'..NO MATTER WHAT THEY DO..BUT HOW MANY OF THEM3/4..ARE IN THE 50..[if all the 50 is from the 1/in 4 me dying wont stop them dying too]
thing is jab..you pulled that 49/50 thing from ya butt
there is no real life application[IM MINDED OF THE FAT GUY TEST
[IE A TRAIN IS RUNNING OUT OF CONTROL/IF YOU DONT ROLE THE FAT DUDE[SMOKER]..UNDER THE TRAIN..AND STOP IT..3 FOOLS STANDING ON THE TRACKS DOWNSTREAM/WILL DIE.
WELL MATE PUSHING FATTY UNDER THE TRAIN=MURDER
its that simple..would you let any one get murderd
WOULD YOU THROW BUDDHA UNDER THE BUSS TO SAVE THREE DENTIsts?
its all distraction..would i die for 49 in a minute
would i want one to DIE..FOR ME..?
NO
DOCTERS SHOULD ONLY 'TREAT'..THE SICK
IF AND WHEN THE SICK[SIC/DANGER COMES]..ONLY THEN IS The minimul risK..OF KILLING FATTIE..EVEn worth considering..
IF A DUDE WITH AIDS IS planniNG..ON RAPING 49 People..what would you do?
me i would do a loki.