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Do we follow UK down the Islamic path?

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Foxy, "Islamophobia, not Islam is the real threat"

So quick of you to demonstrate albeit unintentionally that political correctness is the real threat because it causes people to self-censor, effectively curtailing their freedom of speech.

Julia Gillard criticised the use of PC stereotyping and labels, saying quite properly that people should be able to criticise without being accused of being 'racists', xenophobes' and the like. Or as you have so ably demonstrated Foxy, the use of the offensive allegation of 'Islamophobia' to gag criticism of Islam and Muslims.

Other posters have mentioned this to you previously no doubt.
Posted by onthebeach, Friday, 21 February 2014 1:30:22 PM
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Hi there STEELEREDUX...

The moderate voice of ISAMIC reason eh ? Didn't think it would be long for you STEELEREDUX 'the Islamic apologist and propagandist' to wheel out your tired old clichι "...Sigh, same old, same old from the usual suspects, high on hysteria and short on facts..." ?

I might remind you STEELEREDUX you've never worn a police uniform in Bankstown or any of it's environs. In fact, you've never worn a police uniform, full stop ! If you had, and it was in the Bankstown Patrol area, you would've had a first hand opportunity to witness for yourself, the verifiable consequence of 'Islamization' in that area.

My question of you STEELEREDUX, why at least don't you open your mind sufficiently, to accept the above FACTS,(even in part) that you might well be wrong, in your defence of Islamic immigration for Australia ?

There is not one Western country in the world, where there's been any successful integration with Islamic migrants ? Not one.
Posted by o sung wu, Friday, 21 February 2014 2:43:10 PM
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SteeleRedux posted;

'Invasion' – check.--- right.

'Slippery slope' – check.--- right.

'World domination' – check.--- right.

'Multiple wives' – check.--- spot on.

'Female genital mutilation' – check.---- spot on again.

'Child brides' – check.--- right.

'Theocratic government' - check.--- right.

Use quote; "We have no need to go to war to take over Europe, we will take over by the wombs of our women." - Check.--- right again.

Attack multi-culturalism – check.--- right.

Not a bad effort SR, right 10 out of 10.

Looks like you finally agree with most of us.
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 21 February 2014 4:07:14 PM
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Dear Bazz,

Catholicism stresses rewards in heaven and encourages its
followers to be satisfied with their lot on earth.
Hinduism threatens reincarnation in a lower form of life
to anyone who tries to attain a higher caste status.
Buddhism stresses mysticism, far removed from earthly
goals. Taoism requires the believer to withdraw from
worldly temptations. Confucianism emphasizes a static
social structure as a part of the natural order.

However many Westerners make the mistake of equating Islam
with what they see on their TV screens and what they read
in their newspapers. They associate Islamic fundamentalism
as being the norm. They think that Islamic fundamentalism
is what all Muslims practice. It isn't. Fundamentalists
exist in all religions.

And as I've written in the
past - to many Westerners, Islamic fundamentalism seems
like an almost scandalous return to a medieval morality.
I'll repeat what I've written previously - it conjures forth
images of women behind veils, of adulterers being stoned,
of theives having their hands cut off, of public floggings
and executions, of martyrdom in holy wars, and in extreme
cases, of political fanaticism exemplified in aircraft
hijackings and terrorist bombings.

This picture is rather distorted, for it is based on what is
newsworthy rather than what is typical.

It will be interesting to see how things develop in this
country in the future. And whether the fears that some of
us have will have vanished through inter-action and
discussion. I feel that there's enough hatred in this
world - we don't need to add to it.
Wouldn't it be great if we made people feel welcome
instead of repelling them into antagonistic behaviour.
Remember when Italians, Greeks, Maltese and Portugese
and many others,
remained closely knit. When they sought only one
another's company and married girls of their own nationality?
When they were reluctant to apply for naturalization, partly
because they were regarded as bloody riff-raff?

Today, Australia is a happier land than most others.
Let's hope that this trend will continue - if we all continue
to make it so.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 21 February 2014 5:59:52 PM
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Dear O Sung Wu,

Just letting you know that Spain and Portugal show
success in Muslim integration.
There's an interesting book by Marvine Howe,
"Al-Andalus Rediscovered: Iberia's New Muslims,"
that I'm sure you'd find worth reading.

Cheers.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 21 February 2014 6:16:52 PM
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Yes, I agree Foxy, Australia really is the lucky country, that many people of the world would love to live in.

Yet, if we listen to the ranting and raving of the anti-multiculturalism rabble on this thread, you would think we lived in the middle of a war zone between all the different cultures and religions of Australia.

Sigh...
Posted by Suseonline, Friday, 21 February 2014 6:28:23 PM
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