I am just so sick of Schapelle Corby. What is all this hoo-hah about a cheap drug smuggler? Are the general public all that interested in her? Why would anyone be interested in what is after all, just a common criminal?

I sure hope she has sold her story to one news organisation. That will of course put their channel off my watching list for a few days, & leave some that can be watched without more hype on the fool woman.

You really are showing your true colours here hasbeen. A brainwashed idiot of the past.

She's a young Australian girl who almost lost her life over a plant that here would have gotten her a slap on the wrist. I don't believe she did it. No one would be that stupid!

Lets not forget that said plant is now slowly being legalised all over the world. Life in prison for a plant many, including those that castigate her, use frequently themselves!

Come on, mate, think about it?

Hasbeen put me in the brain washed idiot of the past basket with you.
Yes I am sick of her sick of her drug dealing family and sick in the guts to think she will soon be a millionaire for being convicted.
HIGHLIGHT these words, within an hour of being arrested some one asked her along the lines of how did it come to this.
her answer was because I love my father*
Millions of dollars for being caught? we are both gardeners what say we give it a go?

It was 4.1kg for goodness sakes and there are warnings everywhere.
She was caught red-handed.

Dumb-ass crims who think they are smarter than Customs, especially foreign Customs. Customs: 'This your bag? 'Y'know, the bag that looks like it is about to give birth to a 4.1kg infant?'

There are scores like her on the Glitter Strip: bloody stupid, serial nuisances and a millstone for exasperated taxpayers.
I hope that no-one buys the scum media sensationalism and this idiot fades quickly out of sight.

There are nice kids who are cutting themselves daily. Some suicide. What about caring for them?

No Haz, I’m very interested indeed. Fascinating saga.

Everyone who is at all interested in law and liberties should be fascinated with this case.

I am sure however that those who make it possible for the million dollar check to this lady, do not share the view of hasbeen given, needlessly here.

"Expendable": The harrowing case of innocent Schapelle Corby.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-w8hWo-puqU

If I pick up something that is 4.1 KG heavier than before I would notice the difference and think something was wrong.
How could she not know?

ABC 24 news today said in a news report her family had already made $100.000,s of dollars by being interviewed.
Seems the hash the family once lived on is a secondary source of income now.
Stand by to see a boring month of news about this gang of questionable folk.

Belly, "I am sure however that those who make it possible for the million dollar check to this lady, do not share the view of hasbeen given, needlessly here"

Not sure what you meant by that. Your earlier post was better. This one,
Belly, Saturday, 8 February 2014 6:36:08 PM

It would be a very great stretch to imagine that the media outlets who are pumping this story and have done so from the start, are doing it as a public service. If anyone has seen Liz Hayes from 60Minutes and others milking it for all it is worth it would be obvious that trash journalism has an audience and is worth mega$ in advertising. I guess the sort of products advertised when the trashy current affairs shows are on the air would reflect the audience who want to be entertained and have their world-views confirmed rather than be informed by facts and sober analysis.

Truth is the first casualty where the tabloids are involved and sensationalism and speculative gossip to make the news are routine.

Would an older man with 4.1kg dope in his possession have attracted the media circus? Or would he have been immediately dismissed as a dope himself who was getting his just desserts? Obviously youth and tits, and the added attraction of 'repressive authority' are tops for the entertainment of some. Apparently it was very good hydroponic dope though and better than that inferior scrub grown stuff over there. That alone would present a motive to some.

It was a good cop. An example to others that poor decisions can rebound on the maker. Asian Customs are not as dumb as some imagine them to be. Their police prosecutors give the equal opportunity to young women to be held accountable for their own decisions. Whereas in Oz their female gender can stretch the envelope avoiding charges and penalties where their male equivalents would be pursued and punished with a custodial sentence. Yay for equality!

Belly it was not needless, but with real purpose, that I mention this bumph.

I am heartily sick of this sort of stuff on TV, particularly when it is broadcast as news. I like to catch a news or 2. One used to be the ABC, until their bias became unwatchable. When garbage about people like the Corbys come on, I can't get to the remote quickly enough to get rid of it.

I am hoping to get through to TV news directors, & even more importantly to the advertisers that this stuff costs them audience. Thinking people simply turn off.

If they are like me, they are quicker to get the trash off than they used to be, as they have had a gutful of it.

It is only if we get the advertisers telling the stations what material they will & won't pay for, that we might get a little less garbage on our TV screens.

Belly,
Yeah they're questionable folk but most of the people I know are dodgy in some respect and dope dealing isn't considered a mortal sin in suburbia.
The bigger questions are about the track record of interference of some Australian political factions in the administration of justice and the spinning of the story for political advantage.
You've also got to take into consideration the peculiar zeitgeist of the first decade of this century, Ms Corby isn't going to recognise this country when she eventually returns, 2005 almost seems a lifetime ago.

JOM maybe you move in the wrong circles.
Drug dealers are not the type of person I would ever see as worth while knowing/mixing with.
Side stepped her movie last night but am unlikely to be able to avoid press media showing her in the next month.

I occasionally do some voluntary work in town, and if I take a book to read on the bus, I certainly know the difference in the weight of my bag, from when I don't take one, walking to half-mile or so to work. What's a book - half a pound ?

If I carried a nine-pound (4.1 kg) weight in my bag, I would certainly know it, especially after a night on the red stuff.

Joe

A noble gesture, Hasbeen. But entirely pointless.

>>I am hoping to get through to TV news directors, & even more importantly to the advertisers that this stuff costs them audience. Thinking people simply turn off.<<

The advertisements are not targetted at "thinking people".

Someone did a spot poll of our local Saturday morning café group (country town): Who's sick of the media coverage of Corby? 100%. Then the thought - maybe just our older generation? The survey was extended to young waitresses, barista, other tables. 100%. So the turn-off is across generations and gender. It's a media beat-up.

Cossomby,

Ah, but did you survey the Housos who watch Big Brother and 'current affairs' shows like 60Minutes?' Our Schapelle' would be their heroine and toasted with a Bundy'n'Coke, or Vodka Cruiser for the 'girls'.

The drink and potato chip advertisers want their millions of Centrelink dollars.

Hi there Folks...

I'm not entirely sure, but Ms Corby can't make too much money from her exploits, as asserted by someone herein ? I was under the belief the 'Proceeds of Crime legislation would apply to her ? Please correct me if I'm wrong ?

Dear O Sung Wu,

You're right.

In 2009 Corby was forced to forfeit $128,000 to the
Commonwealth in profits from her book, "My Story," and
a magazine article.

Hi there FOXY...

What a pleasant surprise to hear from you. I hope you're feeling much better, now that you've had some rest ?

Thank you for your information about the forfeiture of monies earned, from a book and a magazine article written by Ms Corby. That was also my understanding of the law.

Interestingly, an Indonesian government official has cautioned her against providing any sort of interview to the Australian media, as it could occasion a reversal of her parole, and therefore return her, back into prison. I would think the lady should carefully heed that wise counsel, and remain very quiet indeed, until she's in a position to return to Australia ? The possibility of being returned to prison, would far outweigh any ruminations she might have, in connection with 'Proceeds of Crime' legislation, I should think ?

Thank you FOXY for taking the trouble to inform us all of Ms Corby's previous forfeiture situation, in 2009. I'm sure we all appreciate it very much indeed. And please look after yourself too.

Who has seen the Schapelle Corgi with the hat and veil?

What about the "Leave Schapelle Alone" video?

Then there is the 'Victa Corby' - guess its features!

Anyhow, the Indonesian public will have some say on how someone on parole for drug smuggling should behave. Luxury apartment giving paid interviews or some humility, low profile and don't stir the possum?

Welcome back, Foxy ! I hope everything is okay :)

So what's the bet that Corby is back behind bars within a month ? That she won't be able to resist the big bucks, like those little kids in the ad who can't resist grabbing the lollies ? Why do crooks think they are smart ?

we'll see.

Joe

Dear O Sung Wu and Joe (Loudmouth),

Thank you both for your kind words and concern.
It's good to be back and I have missed you guys
and your positive outlooks. As far as my health
is concerned - its a work in progress. But being
surrounded by positive people certainly helps.

As for Schapelle Corby? She's certainly a bit of a
puzzle. It's amazing how opinions about her have
changed compared to what people thought a decade ago.
Perhaps one day the entire truth will eventually
come out. For me, there's so many unanswered questions.
I've prefer not to go down the path of whether I think
she's innocent or guilty. I agree with Krew Boylan
the actress who played Schapelle in the TV drama that
Schapelle has suffered enough. I too feel that Schapelle
has paid her dues and it is time she was released.
I'll keep my fingers crossed that Schapelle will lead
a healthy life-style, fall in love, get married, and
have her own kids. I wish her well.

Hello there FOXY and all you other great people...

I'll probably have my head bitten off, but here goes...; In my opinion this lady has received and served a punishment, far in excess of what she deserves. In NSW for an example, in my experience she would've probably received six on top, with a three, NPP ? Perhaps even less ? I'm not in possession of all the facts, but from what I've heard, I 'think' she's more than likely guilty, of trafficking in proscribed drugs.

Furthermore, if the media kept a much lower profile during her arrest and subsequent trial, she may well have received a lesser sentence ? I don't believe the Indonesian government particularly like to either 'lose face' or be denigrated or reviled at the hands of the Oz media.

Also, should Ms Corby decide to speaks out, and flagrantly berate the Indonesian Justice System, that in itself will not augur well, for those Aussies described as the 'Bali 9'. In fact EVERYONE should merely remain very quiet, until ALL appeal processes have been exhausted. More so those appealing long terms of imprisonment, and the two individuals seeking commutation of their individual death sentences.

The right time to make a big noise, and/or have the Prime Minister make a direct appeal for leniency to his Indonesian counterpart, is if ALL the appeal processes have failed, and the penalties upheld ? Otherwise there should be nothing said at this time !

Gosh, are there men being held as well? You don't say!

A sex change, latex strap-on tits and they can be innocent victims of the system too.

Dear O Sung Wu,

Looking at it logically from the evidence presented
Schapelle Corby travelled from Brisbane to Sydney
where at the air-port her board was opened to throw
in her flippers and her friends travelling with her
assured the authorities that there was nothing else
in the bag. They had witnessed the contents of the bag.

Any sensible person who travels to Indonesia and knows
the risk of the death penalty regarding dealing in drugs
would not when asked at the air-port by customs officials
the ownership of the bag, and opening the bag for the
customs officials, cannot possibly be responsible for the
contents of the bag when it left their sight at
Sydney air-port. It appears obviously that the drugs
were placed into the bag by the Sydney air-port bag handlers.

This information has been presented to the prosecutor in
Indonesia and blatantly was rejected by him. The judge of this
case - had
a reputation of strict adherence to the drug laws of
Indonesia no matter what the evidence, possibly to enhance his
status in the Indonesian political system. Based on these
facts it was grossly unjust to make a scape-goat of Schapelle
Corby. And no thanks to the Australian government - who didn't
appear to make any effort in her defence - as has been the
case in other instances regarding Australian citizens in the
past. As I stated earlier - I think she has paid her dues.

Hi Foxy,

Can I please complete that sentence:

"It appears obviously that the drugs were either placed into the bag by the Sydney air-port bag handlers or she put it there herself."

Try this experiment: walk around the block with a half-empty bag. Now try it again with four kilos extra in it, say four one-kilo bags of sugar. You will, I'm sure, notice the difference immediately.

Just trying to help:)

Love,

Joe

Dear Joe (Loudmouth),

When Schapelle walked with her bag in Brisbane
- it was empty apart from
the board and flippers. The bag did not go onto the
plane with her luggage in Sydney - it went separately onto the
flight to Bali and it was only handled by baggage-handlers
and then it went straight into customs in Bali. Schapelle
did not walk around with her bag as you suggest.
But Thanks for trying to help. All this evidence was presented
in court to the Indonesian authorities. The judge simply did
not want nor was interested in hearing any of this evidence.

Hi (again) FOXY, LOUDMOUTH & ONTHEBEACH...

As I stated earlier, I'm not in receipt of all the facts, but prima facie, she does look to be guilty.

When Ms Corby presented herself at the Indonesian 'Primary Line', her baggage was inspected, and the prohibited material was found to be in her possession. Given the alleged size of the seizure (circa 4.5Kilos, 'Before Analysis Weight'), it would indicate, the seizure was of some significant volume and dimensions. And together with the weight, it would be hard for her to explain to the Indonesian authorities, she wasn't aware of the existence of this substance being in her belongings, or her 'boogie board bag' whatever you call it ?

You see FOXY, the interdiction of proscribed drugs...

'possession' the Actus reus (the criminal act) is a vital component necessary for a successful prosecution. However, 'an act itself' does not make a person guilty unless his mind be also guilty (the mens rea) (the criminal intent). Which is a cardinal principle of the Australian Criminal Law.

That's the basis for my assumption, that she's probably guilty as charged. However, as I indicated, I'm not in receipt of all the facts, therefore I could well be wrong ?