Dear OnTheBeach,

<<You did make the foul allegation that there was invasion at the point of a gun.>>

As far as the poor aboriginals are concerned, there was no need for that - alcohol was enough, as well as other germs they had no immunity for. While white man acquired over millennia varying degrees of genetic resistance to alcohol-addiction, aboriginal people had none.

But the invasion of Australia does not end with aboriginals: the invasion continues till today, where at the point of a gun, no other humans are allowed to live in this continent unless they submit to the rule of Western culture.

What gives a particular culture the right to control a whole continent, other the incidental fact that in the 18th century England had better guns and ships than the rest - not only the aboriginals, but the French, the Spaniards, the Chinese, etc. How could that possibly be relevant to the sad fact that even in the 21st century, people are not allowed to settle in this whole continent unless they are welcome by the Australian-English culture and agree to adhere to its rules?

True, other countries do the same, but that doesn't justify them - more so in the case of Australia, with such a huge mass of land, mostly undeveloped, and relatively so little population. Who or what, in heaven or earth, allowed this culture to hog a whole continent for itself?

This completes a full circle back to the topic:

Sure there are things we dislike in the Muslim culture (and rightly so), but the Muslim culture too has a list of things it dislikes in the Western culture (and rightly so). Not allowing Muslims to impose their way of life over you and me, is more than legitimate, but by exactly the same token, what gives Westerners any right to impose their way of life over Muslims?

Yuyutsu
Nobody is trying to "what gives Westerners any right to impose their way of life over Muslims"
What we are saying is if you want to live in this country then abide by the laws, community standards and norms of the community just as we would have to do if we went to live in their country.
Child abuse and underage sex may be an acceptable standard in their country but it is not acceptable here and we have built our whole social structure with these standards.
It is up to us to protect their children now they are in our country.
Today there was a Lebanese charged with 25 counts of underage sex (12 years old) but he claims it is culturally OK because he went through some form of Muslim marriage.
He had only been in the country 2 weeks.
Sorry mate not in my country. I certainly didn't fight three wars to have a git like that live here.

Y I will never question your intelligence or your right to your view.
You have told us you came here because it was the lessor of two evils.
If I got that wrong forgive me please.
You know I find most of your posts obscure and hard to think as you do.
You could be as much a victim as the rest of us, not just here but western worldwide.
You will note Europe is having internal conflict as right wing party,s want an end to Muslim Migration.
Too if you look the great enclaves of welfare fed Muslim enclaves when they do come to the west.
Xenophobia, racist, all words hurled about by the silly left and others who refuse to see.
I believe with all my heart the world must confront religion, ask questions of ourselves.
Why do we let followers of any God twist our tails with demands they be free to think as they will but we must not do the same,Islam is a xenophobic religion.
In the end look at the pain and suffering even Christian Churches bought to the children and .
I wounder when man will stop bending to Gods that never existed.
Freedom of religion? freedom to do great harm it seems

Perhaps Y needs a police check to see if he abides by our laws and upholds them as he claimed in is citizenship pledge; or is he a liar seeking to undermine our culture and laws - a deceiver?

Dear Chris,

<<I certainly didn't fight three wars to have a git like that live here.>>

I am sure you didn't. I assume that you fought bravely because you considered it your duty to protect yourself and your loved ones - not in order to impose your culture on others. The former is honourable, the latter is not.

Dear Belly,

<<You have told us you came here because it was the lessor of two evils.>>

Not just two, but many. Currently, every country in the world oppresses its people to one degree or another. Australia is relatively low on that scale, but we should still remain vigilant.

On a personal level, my life here is good and I have no complaints.
Yet, since Australia is claimed to be a democracy, whatever it does is also done in my name, so it's my duty not to accept any evil it does: and ordering others how to live without their consent is such evil. Had Australia been under dictatorship, I could have said: "oh well, it's the ruler's karma, not mine, so I can just continue to live comfortably and enjoy my life" - but this is not the case, so I'm responsible.

<<Why do we let followers of any God twist our tails with demands they be free to think as they will but we must not do the same>>

Indeed, we should ALL be free. We should not allow them to twist our tails, but then we should not twist theirs either.

<<Islam is a xenophobic religion>>

I claim that it's their culture which is xenophobic, rather than their religion, but let's save that discussion for another day.

The point is whether their sick attitude justifies a similar attitude in us - I think not.

<<I wounder when man will stop bending to Gods that never existed.>>

Do you actually believe that God ordered them to be xenophobic? I don't, I consider it their mind's own evil!

Dear Josephus,

I pledged to abide by your laws, not to like them, agree with them or never seek to democratically change them.

Dear Yuyutsu,

I thought you might enjoy a small diversion regarding the question of nationality, oppression and religion.

"Preferring to fight with the Catholic Mexicans against the Protestant Americans, the San Patricios were the only group of deserters in American history to band together in the service of a foreign enemy."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Patricio_Battalion

Ah the Irish.