Belly,
It is ironic that this issue has emerged just as the AHRC is to inquire into 'kids in detention' which, I understand, is mainly young adult males trying to get out of detention by passing themselves off as under 18. Where is the AHRC in relation to underage marriages or forced marriages. Do they have inquiries into FGM or the sexual abuse of these little girls.

If we are to believe that the government knows about 'a large number' of under age marriages, one would think the AHRC would be demanding action to safeguard the girls.

Perhaps the issue is too difficult for them or maybe insufficient political gain from pursuing it.

I understand that Islamic groups are not the only groups that practice under age and/or forced marriage. Marriage celebrants have a duty to uphold our laws, but apparently they hold our laws in contempt and see their religious practices as above our laws.

Is this the society of our future?

Banjo, "Is this the society of our future?"

Yes and it is also our present. Peter Hitchens is right when he says that the cultural war has been fought and lost.

There was indignant rage that sought to topple senior careers because a young girl used an epithet that has been used by girls and women since time immemorial in body contact sports to describe male players of the opposing team and men generally. The man who pointed the finger at her to encourage her public humiliation as lessons to her and the public at large is now an Australian of the Year and probably still feeling 'gutted'. 'Gutted' is an important, oft-used term by those who complain about such things, just as 'violated' is owned by feminists.

However there is no self-righteous rage by feminists, 'Progressives' and their media columnists - except for a few journalists who are roundly condemned by the same critics as 'red necks' and 'racists' - of the child 'marriages', rapes, molestations, neglect and lack of education that have been endemic since the Whitlam government promoted its policy of indigenous autonomy. Highly credible medical professionals have been whistleblowers, but the multicultural rug has always been pulled over the dirty secrets. Multiculturalists are 'empowered' in politically correct Oz and know that they can easily get away putting the protection of claimed cultural traditions(!) ahead of the rights of aboriginal children under Australian law.

The war against what Peter Hitchens called cultural Marxism has been lost. Recently some of the notable gurus of that cultural movement, Greer and Dan Savage were among them, gathered on Q&A (ABC of course!) to cat-call and bully Peter Hitchens who foolishly believes in free speech and other quaint 'traditional' (the word is now a slur) concepts. Here is a clip of the victors of the cultural war demolishing Hitchens to the delight the usual Q&A audience and the chortling Tony Jones.

http://www.abc.net.au/tv/qanda/txt/s3868791.htm

Peter Hitchens needs to 'evolve'(sic), allegedly and so do any caring Aussie who have the temerity to mention the negative consequences of the social re-jigging of cultural Marxism.

OTB,
The war against "Cultural Marxism" or totalitarian humanism is all but over, it's dying the death of a thousand cuts and Islam has been a key factor in it's demise.
The "Far Right" in Europe and Russia are now openly talking about alliances with Islam to exterminate the Jews, "Atlanticists",Liberals and Leftists.
Recall that Islam has been a part of Europe for 1200 years and it's worldview is fully compatible with other neo traditionalist models of European identity. In the next few years the extreme right will be voted into power across Europe, what they'll do is create the "good Muslim" identity and once again externalise all the perceived threats to European identity and work to eradicate them.

What does Islam want?

- To establish and enforce Islamic culture over any area it can control: the entire world if possible.

And what does Western civilisation want?

- Exactly the same!

Westerners are shocked at the possibility of Islam taking over Europe, but see nothing wrong about England enforcing its own culture on the continent of Australia. Islam had its way in the middle-ages, taking over large parts of Europe and placing Vienna under siege - similarly, England's better guns and ships prevailed as it took over Australia in the 18th century. Had the Ottomans better guns and conquered Vienna and from there continued to England, would you justify the enforcement of their culture over the British? Then what, other than better guns, justifies the enforcement of the Western culture over everyone who wishes to live on the continent of Australia?

Both cultures have cruel expectations of 13-year old girls: Islam wants them to marry and establish a household for their husband, while Western culture forces them to attend school in order to prepare them to become part of the "work-force", slaving away for the rest-of-their-lives in this cruel economic-game.

While nothing justifies forcing a girl (or indeed anyone) to have sex and/or otherwise serve a man she doesn't like (and his family!), nothing also justifies forcing her into becoming a cog-wheel, spending her life working, doing gray, low-paid and unrewarding work for heartless corporations in order to survive.

Islam, at least, recognises that women in general are less competitive than man (though there are exceptions for both genders) and (ideally) expects their husbands to work and bring home the income to sustain them so they never need to worry about finances and the like.

Which is the lesser evil? It is indeed a hard choice for a girl, but hard as it may, it must be HER choice and not that of the men who happen to have better guns.

In the case above, we've no indication (please correct me if I'm wrong) that it wasn't the girl's free choice to marry or that she is otherwise unhappy.

I am not ignoring other races that impact on us this way.
But if we confront the importation of a culture harming our own, no other gets to be worse than Muslim intrusion.
I am aware of the implications of my views but to of impending acts of terrorism world wide as second and third generations born in the west bring their brain washed selves home to terroris us.

I am not ignoring other races that impact on us this way.
But if we confront the importation of a culture harming our own, no other gets to be worse than Muslim intrusion.
I am aware of the implications of my views but to of impending acts of terrorism world wide as second and third generations born in the west bring their brain washed selves home to terror'is us.