.....But too that a community voting coalition forever is in real danger and in all truth think we should help

But Belly only a few posts ago you said yourself they were loosing million, if not hundreds of millions.

Why on earth should we chip in $25 million of tax payers money to save a failing business?

There should never be a single cent ever go to support any company paying over award wages, or offering above award conditions.

If making sweetheart deals with unions/workers is good business, the companies will be doing well, be profitable, & the best of British to all of them, I'm all for it

If sweetheart deals are bad business, there is no reason for taxpayers to prop up greedy workers in badly managed businesses.

We saw the abattoirs close all over Oz as bad management gave in to overpaying workers on the quota system.

There are ore bodies all over Oz, no longer mined, as the management gave in to worker demands in the good times, only to go broke when prices came back a bit.

A once thriving coastal shipping industry was killed by excessive wages & conditions demanded by our seamen's union, cheered on by the workforce.

The car industry is dead, although still flapping for a little while. The food processing is likewise dying like an old time case of gangrene. They keep chopping off the dead bits, knowing it will die completely some time soon.

We had to close our wharfs for months to get any sense into labor costs, & conditions, & who would want to become a builder, with the construction industry so full of rip-offs.

There is very little left where the unions have not shat in their nests, & killed the goose. The only eggs left are way past their use by date.

Look at the UK & it's unions in the 70s, & you see our future all laid out. Forget CO2, & Muslim immigration, it is the unions that are determined to kill the west, & they are bloody good at it.

Yes Hasbeen, and the problem has always been that while it's all well and good to demand/comand a premium for ones labour in good times, unions simply won't have a bar of lowering these same conditions when times get tough. It's call take and take, not give and take, even though these conditions were reached at a time when demand for labor outstripped supply.

The board of SPC needs to take a vote from the workers, (unions excluded) and seek approval for a reduction conditions. At least that way the workers, not the union bosses decide the fait of their jons and livelihoods.

Remembering of cause that these workers enjoy far more than the usual benefits and they have had the privilege of these extra ordinary benefits for years. Just hope didn't waste that opportunity.

I leave the conversation after all as this thread degenerates in to a flog the Aussie workers/unionist one what is the use.
Nothing to do with the SPC trouble but like some kids still sucking their thumbs at age seven comfort food/insulting workers is joyful to some, always to those unconcerned by truth.
The bloke next door may well be a worker/unionist we should protest kick him/her out!
Vale my friend rest in peace *the Australian fair go mate is dead* truth in grave danger as a filthy working class unionist I retreat before some one kicks me.

My suggestion it that Cocoa Cola hand the factory over to the workers and fruit suppliers on a percentage ownership of time served / fruit supplied as a cooperative to be owned by the local shareholders and allow them to make a go of it. Profits may not be enough for Cocoa Cola but if income can equal expenditure then all can still be employed. If they are owners then it in their interest to make it work.

Dear Josephus,

Why keep this rotten band-aid?

I will never support these American poisoners. Had I knew that they own SPC, then I wouldn't buy their products in the first place.

If on the other hand, those same producers and employees which used to work for the Americans endeavour to do it by themselves, then I will be happy to support them by buying their products, even if they are a bit more expensive.