The bottomless pit is your saying not mine. You have a one track solution for everything. Why not lead by example and take no more than 650 / wk.
Cheap imports are to blame and that refers to everything.

Come off it Belly, you have to face facts.

I don't know a single person who is not happy for workers and unionists have the right to share in our nation's wealth. It is what we all want for genuine Ozzies. What we want stopped is the bully boys who are prepared to destroy the wealth of all of us, to grab more than their share. It is even worse when it is obvious the grab will ultimately destroy the industry, as we can now see with mining.

I gave you the list of industries destroyed by union forced excessive wages. have you noticed that it is not the industries that are most profitable that pay highest, but those were strikes are most expensive.

There is no reason to pay a bloke who drives a container truck around a wharf, or a dump truck around a mine any more than a bloke driving a delivery truck around the city. They have extorted more, as a strike ties up huge investments with huge interest bills, making a strike more costly to the boss.

There is no reason to pay a factory worker more than a fruit picker. It is just this type of rip-off that destroys industries & jobs.

If you believe in this system, we have nothing more to talk about. Anyone who believes in such a system is no better than the mugger who holds a gun to your head, while robbing you.

I did find it amusing during the pilots strike, that most unions, & unionists disapproved, of those pilots using standard union tactics. The same people who cheered when Hawke brought in scab labour pilots, were crying foul when the same thing was tried with the wharf laborers.

So mate, if you & the noisy ones, want to blather about principle, lets see a few displayed by you & the others, otherwise you are just another mugger ripping of whoever you can damage most.

Butcher, I understand why you are having difficulty in accepting a few hard truths about Abbott & Co.

However, I will try again:

SPC Ardmona managing director Peter Kelly has said:

"Its problems were not from labour costs or productivity, but rather a high dollar which hurt exports and allowed a "flood" of cheap imports since 2009. In that period market share of private label canned fruit grew to 58 per cent today, while SPC Ardmona canned fruit share declined to 33 per cent. Our export market volumes declined by 90 per cent in the past five years."

There is more here:

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/spc-rejects-government-claims-issues-the-facts-on-workers-allowances-20140204-31ynj.html

Before you get your knickers in a knot, neither a Labor nor a Coalition government controls the value of the dollar.

You don't have to be so obstinate because it really should not be that hard for you to grasp.

So once again ozdoc, why are you in favor of throwing good money after bad?

As for high wages, I will wait to see if details of the agreement are released and, if am wrong, I will accept that, but what I won't accept is heresy from an interested party, that being the CEO.

Butcher,

The Industry Minister thinks maintaining a manufacturing base here in Australia (canneries, holdens, etc.) is not throwing good money after bad.

Macfarlane tried to get the 'hard right' in Cabinet to understand this, they didn't.

The Coalition Government blithely said on their election: "Australia is open for business". Abbott & Co are closing the doors.

Ok, you will accept hearsay from Abbott - says it all really.

Abbott has been shown to be 'loose with the truth' by the Liberal MP for Murray and the managing director is bound by legislation under ASIC.

Ozdoc nice tray again, at least you're persistent.

What I said were words to the tune of "it has been suggested". I will asume you missed that bit.