http://www.skynews.com.au/topstories/article.aspx?id=946028&vId=4321149&cId=Top%20Stories
Spindoc you are indeed using a truly descriptive tag on this site, fits you like a glove!
O sung wo, well bloke yes and no, just as I from my first day here taken the stick to both arms of my life,s love, I can not hide my long term contempt for this union and its fellow travelers.

Here I speak to all but to Paul 1405 I highlight this.
The view that this event is all encompassing, every union every official,and therefore taints us and the ALP is the best evidence I could ever find to justifies airing this.
We in both party and union movement MUST at the least confront both, our own members union in this case and the public can to hold views that the whole barrel,all of us are rotten to the core.
Know spindoc is a product of Menzies house, but we arm him with the rocks he turns in to boulders and hurls back at us.
This morning I call on the truly great people I would trust with my life, to picket the court Thomson and the NSW filth appear in, wearing with pride union brands.
Words are far from enough, our absence looks bad when the damage done to our brand ,and those we consider our reason for existing.
I know good proud and honest men and women exist in the union movement, increasing *extremist Government* actions in the wages area is highlighting the need for unions.
We must man up, hold our own internal commission of inquiry,and remember we knew about the crime organization named the CFMEU and I have the scares to prove it!
We must reconsider our methods trying to cuddle the death adder, that union can be fatal.

"Is Labor too close to rotten unions to control them?"

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinion/why-did-labor-go-soft-on-the-unions/story-fni0ffxg-1226813335464

Dear Belly,

Some people are really trying to unsettle
you - don't let them affect you.
We've both experienced these run-of-the-mill
internet trolls who snipe with deeply personal
barbs from behind the cover of an alias identity.
They should only strengthen your resolve.
Do what I do - don't read their posts or respond
to them.

Anyway, here's a link that you may find interesting:

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/unions-must-leave-labor-20100210-nsat.html

Foxy, generally a good article but holding up the American system as ideal is not what I would have in mind. The political dimension in Australia has certainly moved in my lifetime, and yes Whitlam more than any other was responsible for being the catalyst for that shift. Pre Whitlam the Australian worker could identify with Labor politically, throught the party and industrially through the union movement "he knew his place". Regardless of that identification it did not always equate to political power for Labor, more the fault of the Labor Party than anything the union movement or the worker done. The Labor Party through infighting and poor leadership, Arthur Calwell, failed post war Australia. The country was left to be governed by an unimaginative conservative in Robert Menzies, a period of lost opportunity.
With Whitlam it certainly was "It's time", but as history shows, Whitlam like Christ offered so much, only to be crucified when deliverance was at hand. Not totally the fault of the "powers that be", but to some extent, again the failure of the Labor Party.
Post Whitlam was the beginning of the big shift to the right by Labor. Very much a case of, if you can't beat them, join them. This Labor shift seen conservative Labor leaders come to the fore Hawke and Keating, certainly not old school Labor but the pragmatists that if abandoning principles was necessary to gain power these men were ready to deliver, and deliver they did, but at what cost? The slow and steady decline of the labor movement both politically and industrially in this country. What did the Gillard and Rudd governments achieve for Labor long term, nothing!

Paul 1405, "Post Whitlam was the beginning of the big shift to the right by Labor. Very much a case of, if you can't beat them, join them. This Labor shift seen conservative Labor leaders come to the fore Hawke and Keating"

Nonsense. They are all Fabians and so was Whitlam. Fabians, as in 'Progressives' or more correctly, International Socialists. They just like to camouflage their International Socialist ideology and commitment.

The Fabians, the self-acknowledged 'Wolves in Sheep's Clothing' have you all bluffed. To the Fabians you are the 'Useful Idiots' described in your Marxism.

Here, have a wake-up experience, a light-bulb moment:

"Wolves in Sheep's Clothing"
Sydney 2GB's Michael McLaren speaks with Dr. Amy McGrath, author of Wolves in Sheep's Clothing, about Agenda 21 and the influence of the Fabians on the world. [March 10, 2013].

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OK54fBPTuZo

Beach, a case of "Reds Under The Bed". Fancy being fooled by this old dodo. Dr Amy McGrath flogging her phoney book.
For nearly two decades a group of cranky old right-wing reactionaries from the leafy suburbs of Sydney, such as Dr Amy McGrath of the H S Chapman Society, and cheered on by Alan Jones, Christopher Pearson, Paul Sheehan, and Professor David Flint. These people in their hysteria "see" communists at ever turn, Wow Bill Clinton was a communist! Was Ronald Reagan also a communist, Obama, as is the Queen of England, The Pope they just don't admit it. Assisted by that right wing plonker 2GB's Michael McLaren. what an "interview" incomprehensible nonsense.
Anyone taking notice of this batty old fool could be described as a 'Useful Idiot" but I'm not sure about the useful part. Have you listened to this "interview", I rest my case.