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Michael Bachelard - Asylum seekers tricked by navy. Jan 5th

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Dear Banjo,

We've been over this issue so many times in the
past. And as you well know people are held in
detention while their claims for asylum are being
assessed. I feel that all this arguing over "illegals,"
is rather pointless. They may well be assessed as not
being genuine asylum seekers - and in that case their
applications will be rejected. However until they are
assessed seeking asylum (regardless of how they arrive
in this country) is not illegal. We are signatories to
the Refugee Convention and are obligated to assess all
asylum applications. These people are not therefore
breaking our laws, on the contrary, we have agreed to
assess their applications. People may well be "unlawful"
by arriving here without visas - but they are not "illegal"
because they are not breaking any of our laws. Even Scott
Morrison arrives with that.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 25 January 2014 11:18:06 AM
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It's about time that we told the UN where to go and declared all refugee/asylum seeker treaties/agreements null and void.
Then put the issue direct to the Australian people and ask what they want.

Anyone fleeing persecution should stay in the first country that they are safe in especially if they are among people of the same religion and a similar culture. No Muslim should need to leave Indonesia.
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 25 January 2014 11:28:35 AM
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no boats now for 37 days. About time all the lefties apologised for their pig headedness in insisting this was impossible. Now the ABC and its luvvies try and make up stories in order to stir up trouble with Indonesia, froth at the fact that they are again totally wrong and ignore the lack of drownings produced by Greens/Rudd and Gillard. I wonder what they are dreaming up regards to the abolition of the carbon tax in July. They insisted this could not be done (including the usual OLO 'progressives'. Should be more humble pie but instead frothing at the mouth and more lies I suspect.
Posted by runner, Saturday, 25 January 2014 11:43:52 AM
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Foxy,
when I think back to before Tampa and siev x and to the false accusation by Tony Kevin, Marilyn Sheperd and her ilk. they even claimed our navy ignored survivors in the water. Then after trying to portray the illegals as the poor and desperate they were claiming racism by our rescue people because of search and rescue attempts off Cape York and reckoned we ignored others several thousand Kls away.

The lies, spin and distortion have come thick and fast from the illegals advocates over the years. The simple truth is that the illegals are shonks and con artists, invading our country to gain the benefits we and our forebears worked and died for.

No boat arrivals for many weeks. I must admit I thought it would take far longer to achieve that. Time to congratulate the government on a job well done. But don't rest on your laurels, keep up the good work.

Happy Australia Day to Scott Morrison, at last we have something to celebrate. Goodonya!
Posted by Banjo, Saturday, 25 January 2014 1:57:07 PM
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No boat arrivals for 37 days. Don't get too comfy with that, weather does play a role in that also. I think on top of trying to stop the boats we must also try & stop the danger from within. The danger that is a very poor mentality augmented by stupidity.
The real enemies are from/in Australia.
Posted by individual, Saturday, 25 January 2014 2:42:47 PM
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Steelie, what part of. "coming directly" don't you understand. I have shown you this a dozen times & you just ignore that bit.
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Coming directly means, Coming directly from where they are in danger, crossing one border to a country where they are not in danger." That's it.

Any shopping around for another country for an economic benefit is not allowed & they cease to be refugees. It says so in the UNCHR Convention. read the whole thing, don't skip the parts you don't like.

The Global Refugee site you recommended is one of the most biased, lying sites I've ever come across.
Posted by Jayb, Saturday, 25 January 2014 4:00:38 PM
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