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So what's wrong with sending them back?
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Has anyone ever though of why Indonesia doesn't reject any new boat arrivals if they become too much for them so as to pass them on to Australia ?
Posted by individual, Saturday, 18 January 2014 8:34:59 PM
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Individual,
Has anyone ever wondered whether the true price of passage on "leaky boats" is being misrepresented? Could it be that a cheap airfare from Dubai or Colombo to Jakarta and a brief and relatively easy boat trip costing a few hundred dollars which delivers you into the bosom of the "social justice" support system is an easier method of immigration than going through the legal channels? Where's the proof that the people smuggling business model is making the outlandish profits which are being quoted in the biased media or by the biased government? Seriously, are we to believe that in a country where haggling is mandatory and dog eat dog competition is the norm that the boatmen aren't undercutting each other and that there's no competition? I've been to Indonesia and I've spent a fortnight on Lombok which is the launching place of many of the colonist's transports. My impression is that the businessmen there do pretty much whatever they want and if they see you make a deal with their competitors they'll often sidle up and offer you a big discount. Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Sunday, 19 January 2014 9:13:48 AM
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steelredux it would be a lie to claim some very much so, red neck comments are being expressed here.
No doubt in your mind I have earned my spurs to be placed in that group. But please consider others thoughts. I want at some time an end of refugee law being the measure of who gets to come here. Think with me, see I wanted the Malaysian solution, we however pick who comes and over all, having done so bring in more refugees if that is the term you wish. Lets look at another truth, like it or not MOST Australians are unhappy with boat people. Much more importantly, try telling me you do not know, if we drop our border protection we will see *hundreds of thousands come EACH YEAR* Howard won over the blue color workers because he stopped them. No party not committed to stopping them will ever again win an election in this country. Sure it is true! great pain and suffering SOMETIMES is the fate of these folk, but are we in this country to share their pain endlessly? If the UN was other than a waste of the air its controllers breath we could help. We could given a UN mandate make their home lands safe if they are not now, most are safe, look at the cuts to spending we confront, but know if the boats stop we can cut far less. Posted by Belly, Sunday, 19 January 2014 9:22:47 AM
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Jay of Melbourne,
I get what you're saying & my view is that this is keeping the costs of the invasion of Australia to a minimum. rather smart really, shame so many Australians can't see it. Posted by individual, Sunday, 19 January 2014 9:37:00 AM
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Some seem to have forgotten that the Malaysian deal was we send 800 to
them and they send 4000 to us. Sounds like a pink batts deal ! Yes Jay, I am sure it is competitive but then it is probably a sellers market. Many reports suggest that they fly to Malaysia and engage a smuggler there and are smuggled by boat into Indonesia, then put up in boarding houses until a boat is available. Have not heard anything further that the smugglers are organising false visas, or corrupt visas to Australia and then putting them on aircraft to Australia. Perhaps immigration read the same stories and fixed that. Both Malaysia and Indonesia have enough of their own problems so I don't understand why they don't crackdown at their own airports. I wonder how Indonesia would react if we were allowing people to go to Indonesia undocumented in informal boat voyages. Posted by Bazz, Sunday, 19 January 2014 10:21:32 AM
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http://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk/news/8308077.Corsham_adventurer_returns_home_after_ordeal/
Bazz, Something like this would happen. Posted by individual, Sunday, 19 January 2014 10:45:49 AM
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