SPQR gee, you make it hard!
I actually support Abbott,s turn back the boats policy.
Indeed based only on polls many ALP voters do.
It swings on one word *refugee*
Now Susionline is a mate of mine but without doubt she dislikes my view totally.
Such is life, I know some of Abbott,s actions are counter productive.
The last three years of Labor government prove voters are willing to be blind to truth and too no doubt they do not trust his tell us nothing junk.
But I do not think these folk are refugees.
However in truth you shock me, indy does too, to fail to understand just how badly our neighboring country,s suffer because of the crowds rushing to get on our social security system.
Any true believer in the need for our current SS system must come to understand it must be only for the needy not greedy or we risk failing those in true need.

Belly,
I'm not quite sure if I am right or wrong in my memory but I seem to recall some time ago reading somewhere that Indonesia has over a millon Millionaires. Someone please enlighten us if this is factual or not. If it is it makes one wonder why so many fishermen have to resort to people smuggling and/or if it is merely for money or it is indeed an agenda. Can someone provide figures how many boat arrivals have been proven to be non-genuine refugees ? Where's Foxy when we need her ALP/Green provided statistics ?

SteelRedux You seem to talk down to us lesser people as if you enjoy some elevated locale. Most of us appreciate a more dogmatic expression of views preferably those offering solutions. Cynicism and word play should be confined to the fields of politics and law as little else happens there.

'So why don't you tell me where to look for our humanity because from where I'm sitting its been scared off by the likes of yourself and I'm not going to apologise for getting cranky about it. '

SteeleRedux

by all means be outraged by the millions displaced. Your outrage is misplaced however when people who buy their way here and destroy their papers take precendence over many genuine refugees. Also you lack of compassion for drowned families seems evident.

btw how many do you think we should take each year?

Rehctub, even the title reeks of racism.
I wouldn't waste my time explaining the obvious to you and your friends.

I wouldn't waste my time explaining the obvious to you and your friends.
Suseonline,
So that's the answer for when you've cornered yourself with pseudo intellectual arguments ? Pretty Pi$$ poor from my persepctive.