Geoffrey Kelly,
I wondered if it might have been the same.
I did not know for sure what the first one was although it did seem
to be about global warming.
What is the relationship between that organisation and the IPCC ?

Imagine having a world government. Some want to do away with state
government because it is becoming unmanageable.
The UN is a super bureaucracy now, just imagine the mess we would be in
with a supreme parliament sitting in New York !

Are there really serious people proposing that ?
I remember Bob Brown brought it up once and the shrieks of laughter
seemed to have sunk it never to be heard from again.

Any way it does mot matter whether AGW is real or not, there is just
not enough fossil fuel to burn, not at a price that can be afforded.

Yes Paul saw it and most of another called in the footsteps of Paul.
I remain interested in how we bought about the God Myths.
But then again we are doing the same with climate change this time trying to avoid the truth.

I keep asking what I now suspect must be "an inconvenient question"
that is;
"is it true that the earth has been warming for the last 300 years ?"

I have read that the temperature has been rising since the Maunder Minimum.
Interestingly there was very low sunspot counts at that time.
The current sunspot counts at maximum are quite low. Hmmm. Who knows ?

Paul, I read that Prepper link that Ls Mise gave.
http://www.aussurvivalist.com/
Interesting, there is a link on the home page as to the different groups.

What I did not realise was that they are split into such diametrically
opposed groups.
Some are way off the planet, some are just Rambo organisations that
would be really dangerous in a real emergency.
Others are quite sane and prepare for bushfires, loss of electricity etc.
Others put more effort into whatifs such as widespread high unemployment etc.
Still others plan for withdrawl of many government services and the
need for selfsufficiency due to the economic effects of AGW and/or peak oil.

All in all worth a read.

‘morning Geoffrey Kelly,

I don’t normally respond to the diversions, distractions and Unicorns offered by many, if the writer is so shallow that content can be ignored for a typo, one has to wonder what is between their ears. Thanks anyway.

It is curious that so many offer what they see as informed comment and yet ask such dumb questions as “What is the relationship between that organization (UNFCC) and the IPCC?”

And yet in NSW the curriculum mandates Agenda 21 as a study topic.

Like Eunuchs at the Orgy, there are always first with the gossip, but being forced to realize that they doesn’t really know what’s going on, their knowledge is not real and that far from being the centre of things, they is forever on the margin.

The bullshifters and the liars may hold centre stage for a while but in the end they are found out and their contributions forgotten.

Sit back, watch and enjoy as the “CAGW Titanic” collides with the iceberg that isn’t supposed to be there. Listen to the plaintive cries, abuse, vilification and excuses of the gullible passengers as they head for the lifeboats which departed on November 19th, 2009. Climategate.

Spindoc said;
and yet ask such dumb questions as “What is the relationship between that organization (UNFCC) and the IPCC?”

Well I am sorry to have had to ask such a dumb question !
I thought it was a very reasonable question.
I know that the IPCC is a committee or commission to conduct an enquiry
and give advice to governments, but I was interested in the organisational
link to the UNFCC. Is the IPCC a creature of the UBFCC or the General Assembly ?

Really to get on such a high horse over such a simple question seems
very strange indeed.