Belly,

Good manners and consideration for others is for both sexes. I don't have much times for the White Ribbon campaign, believing that violence in all of its forms is not, as I said earlier, the preserve of one sex.

There is plenty of brutish behaviour and ignorance about and teachers have to cope with it in prep school. 'Progressives' side with the perpetrators and will not accept that people choose what they do and should be held responsible for their behaviour. 'Progressives' must always find someone else other than the perpetrator to blame, which encourages a repeat of the behaviour.

I haven't been around long enough to know if this is a growing problem or not, but I CAN contribute my observation that there are a lot of very angry, very bitter and very aggressive girls out there. I don't just say that based on an assumption that girls should be 'nicer' than boys, and I CERTAINLY don't say this as a blanket statement including all girls.

In my experience as a teacher, the vast majority of teenage girls and boys are wonderful young people. Sure, they have their moments - all teenagers and, indeed, all adults do. But in most cases I can say that working with young people gives me hope for the future.

That said, there seem to be more angry girls than angry boys, and they seem to be angrier, too. I don't know what has made them this way, but I'm sure they have their reasons. Without wanting to make generalisations, is it possible that girls take the hard knocks in life more seriously than boys? That they are conditioned too early to see men as oppressors and women as competitors? I don't know.

I wouldn't want to be a girl. It seems like hard work.

Hasbeen , if you had caused serious harm to the 'little scrubber' just because she swore at you and tried to run away, you would be charged with assault.

Apparently, the law says you must be in real fear of your life before responding to that sort of violence with extreme force.....and I couldn't see anything life-threatening coming from the girl on that TV screen.

Do you think a good bashing and head injury is a suitable punishment for avoiding paying a fare?

Of course, neither of us could really see exactly what went on at that moment, so neither of us can really pass judgement.

i have only seen the footage where most of it was blocked out by some wall. It does not appear to me it was spear-tackle. She wasn't head first, she was laid flat. It's ablown out of all proportion simply to demonise authority & excuse bad behaviour. Get it in perspective people. I didn't see any footage of the officers throwing others to the ground who went through the proper gates & who didn't abuse the officers. Why do some morons always defend the crap heads. Beats me. I put it down to stupidity.

I just have no choice I agree totally with Hasbeen.
Susionline you gave me reason to do that, see you said *HOWEVER*
That word is in common use to avoid the first wrong act.
I get no joy out of knowing SOME girls are lost , hope they find a new way in the mid twenty,s but not forgetting truth.
Foxy, mate, a boy in these times can commit criminal offense and walk free, one has recently told me he will do so about 5 or 6 times before prison.
And do you wish to tell me a man should stand and let the little TART punch him knowing justice will be done,it justice is blind and useless in stopping this type of crime.
My job, and areal lifelong belief we should help those we can, has seen me many times trying to help such kids.
It brings betrayal as often as success.
Yet today,s parents make me so very proud they love and commit totally to the Children.
Those that do not give us kids like this girl some times.
Over the weekend my visitors and I watched a story about increasing violence from drunken teen ager,s, it shows clearly we have lost our way.
Young girls drunk and out of control boys too bashing others.
If our system of law had as its duty the wish to both punish and help such as this girl, or the tens of hundreds like her what would be the right action?

You will probably find that the guard (guards) were of foreign extract, possible middle European and more than likely Muslim.