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the more youhate
the more we must try to ,love

its..a little sad..that people cant forgive..or forget
its almost..like..they want to..despoil/blot-out..or obscure
good..that was only able to/be done..by one such as him..at that/ place..and/time.

he PERSONALLY..is being accused of necklacing[putting a tire around some-ones neck..and setting fire..to/it[a thing reportedly..his wife..REPORTEDLY/did/BUT>..NOT AS FAR AS I..KNOW..a horrid thing..mandles did.

regardless..those blind with hate agendas..prattle on
judging the times rather than anything actualy done..by the man

just ass we forget..that..jfk..got killed..simply for trying to prevent..nukes..[and that castro..DEMANDING..mandela be freed[to prove good faith..for cuba to withdraw..from angolia]..

life has those SPOILERS..who cannot conceive..
the weight god gives the repentant..heart.

ditto the same spoilers..wanting xmass ritual dead

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=BoG2uhxeN6E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PCLnie3HPMg

WASHINGTON..US President Barack Obama..had three unique tasks to juggle on Thursday night,..and only at the White House were they obviously interlinked.

http://www.jpost.com/International/Two-menorahs-Mandela-and-Iran-at-the-White-House-334182

and still..DOING THE HARD PRESS
recall/this same mob killed luther bobby and jack

The new Israeli ambassador presented his credentials yesterday and tweeted, “Pic w/Pres. Obama-

I look fwd to working w/you & your admin to make the bonds b/w Israel & America stronger than ever.’”

And he gave the president some cufflinks.
Dermer's gift..was made in dung-gate
http://f8wee1vvia32pdxo527grujy61.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Dermer-gift.jpg

YOU..who....have adopted..as..a state-symbol
the menorah..(candlebrum).

<<..which is explained..in the Tenach..
(on..the occasion of..a previous return..to the Holy Land).

as,WRITTEN

*"not..with..*armed force*..and..not with power,*....*KEY*
but..*in My spirit..says..the..Lord of Hosts.">>

more signs..by design

http://www.jewishgiftplace.com/photos/menorahs-big/opt/ancient_menorahs45.jpg

A Messianic Seal..from the Christian church/in ancient Jerusalem has been rediscovered..after 2,000 years...This ancient symbol was found on Mount Zion.

It is believed to have been created/and used by the Jewish believers who called..themselves Nazarenes..in the first Messianic Church
from
http://www.jewishgiftplace.com/Ancient-Menorahs.html

it sort of finishes..here for..now
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6098#177707

or here
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=15664&page=0

who..knows..maybe here

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6040&page=0#176496

ohbomber’s gift?
http://investmentwatchblog.com/executive-orders-from-hell-why-would-an-american-president-ever-do-this/

http://xrepublic.tv/node/6454

http://whatreallyhappened.com/content/lighting-national-menorah
http://investmentwatchblog.com/world-trade-organization-in-crisis-the-wto-is-a-western-cartel-that-emerging-countries-are-beginning-to-resist/
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 7 December 2013 9:43:33 PM
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RM, Vexnews from August 5, 2010, Adam is a bit slow, I'm still waiting for the call. Is that the best you can come up with a 3 year old beat up from an online scandal sheet.
OTB that Mike Godwin bloke looks like a fat version of Heinrich Himmler, there's another one for you, add it to the list. Godwins law, you make it sound fair dinkum, like its a law, like the law that you can't eat meat on Fridays, and like Boyle's law, the only thing they have in common is they are both full of gas, well Godwins is all hot air, close enough.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 7 December 2013 10:05:37 PM
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Spin is important. If the forces for good don't re-write the history to sanitise Mandela and claim him and his 'revolution' as being for peace and good, the other side of nasty types will get to paint it all as concessions won by violent struggle. That gives them and others, the forces of evil if you will, the excuse and credibility among the easily led and disaffected for violence, especially violence directed at civilian targets. Very dangerous in a country where the locals have always enjoyed a bit of blood-letting and machetes are cheap.
Posted by onthebeach, Sunday, 8 December 2013 12:10:27 AM
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It is appalling to see such lack of insight & so much ignorance. It's no wonder mankind keeps descending. Brainwashing works....the wrong way.
Posted by individual, Sunday, 8 December 2013 6:03:06 AM
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The top 5 most hypocritical Mandela eulogies by Israeli politicians
http://972mag.com/the-top-5-most-hypocritical-mandela-eulogies-by-israeli-politicians/83109/

What do statesmen of the Jewish state – one of the last western countries to support the South African apartheid state and which today practices apartheid-like policies between the river and the sea – have to say about the man who brought racism to its knees?

israel..dont do..anything..by chance
even in madelas time it was/doing..its thing[what things]
to give..OBOMBER..cuff-links..is like saying..we bind your/hands.

just as affective as hand cuffs
indicating your hands are tied

i note that mandela will/be commemorated..with gold cufflinks
i agree..that he NEEDS be made the peace maker..because govt rather have peace-nicks..doing it futility..than/negotiating with ira..or israel..who's works..validate terror as the way/means.

the freaky shape..of the menora...is like a spider
and spiders weave webs..as no mention..of the source of the material..its made of..dung gate where its made..gives a clue.

further clues..On Wednesday, Obama addressed income inequality. He called it "the defining challenge of our time." He did so disingenuously.

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/obama-claims-his-new-reforms-will-wait-for-it-give-americans-more-confidence-in-nsa_122013

Throughout his tenure, he's transferred America's wealth to corporate interests and super-rich elites. He stole it from ordinary people doing so...as ALL rich/must do..to get rich

Even Wall Street Journal editors said
"few presidents have done more to increase inequality than he has.

so now the dung-gate/cuff-links..look more like scales
[there is no justice..its just us..[and them]
http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/there-is-more-to-learn-from-nelson-mandela/

so whats..in/the balance

http://www.genocidewatch.org/southafrica.html
http://www.zippittydodah.com/2013/12/political-correctness-and-rise-of.html
http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/church-group-targeted-by-city-for-feeding-homeless/
http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/horrific-consequences-people-dont-understand-the-scale-of-the-emergency-thats-going-on-right-now_12052013
http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/news/austerity-eroded-human-rights-says-council-europe
http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/news/elderly-britons-take-brunt-national-health-service-budget-cuts

thing..is..you will/never know
http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/news/internet-s-new-biggest-threat-how-web-traffic-can-be-secretly-redirected

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2ae_1386278681

Stewart quipped, “I expect this from you,
Johnson. But not you, Johnson.”

What is amazing is that the crime Johnson & Johnson had done was bribe doctors to prescribe a medication for old people, the disabled, and babies, that had no proven benefit at all!

http://rinf.com/alt-news/editorials/censored-science-and-nonsense-retracting-seralinis-study/
gmo/3 rd generation/sterility

http://www.visibleorigami.com/2013/12/mind-control-or-control-of-mind.html

http://rinf.com/alt-news/editorials/pope-francis-the-globalization-of-indifference/

but there is no..shortage of cursed metal..in the world
to make them/from..[any,metal..associated with death..is cursed],metal has memory..

anyhow the king is dead..or so/it seems
its going to/be a cold winter of discontent[austerity]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2518562/Winter-storm-Cleon-delivers-heavy-snowfall-icy-conditions-East-Midwest.html

peacetalks..yeah right
http://www.timesofisrael.com/obama-and-netanyahu-to-speak-at-washington-forum/?
Posted by one under god, Sunday, 8 December 2013 6:22:53 AM
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Indy I try, constantly;.
Try to see what is behind your abrupt self satisfied posts.
A tip, you over use insults to others intelligence.
Nearly every post challenges some group or individuals intelligence.
In some cases I too challenge Individual IQ but there is little doubt it is a worthy question in that case.
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 8 December 2013 9:08:30 AM
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