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Posted by one under god, Saturday, 7 December 2013 6:48:47 AM
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When they realised they could exploit Mandela they did & the rest is history.
Posted by individual, Saturday, 7 December 2013 7:53:49 AM
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For me a person who as a youth felt deeply the wrong done to South Africa its original people and all people *of color*
This thread has taken an unfortunate turn. The Movie shown last night, about the Springboks and how Nelson made that team that once refused Black players, the team this then teen age kid protested about, and made it glue holding all South Africans together, was very true. I hesitate to remind such as Jay of Melbourne and yes OUG, that thoughts expressed here are minority ones. We by our willingness to chase phantoms, follow the side of politics we believe in, even in to a swamp, harms only us and truth. To consider this man as he was not as he was sold to us would in the end remember the man as the one who stopped what was to be a blood bath and bought true Democracy to his country for the first time. I warn far right far left and far lost politics will never gain power in this country and that we have seen some of that here posing as comment. Posted by Belly, Saturday, 7 December 2013 7:58:59 AM
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Jay of Melbourne,
What you consider a "load of rubbish" is actually a very important historical event. This is for your information: In 1960 - in the black township of Sharpville, near Johannesburg, South Africa, Afrikaner police opened fire on a group of unarmed black South African demonstrators killing 69 people and wounding 180 in a hail of sub machine-gun fire. The demonstrators were protesting against the South African Government's restrictions on nonwhite travel. In the aftermath of the Sharpeville massacre, protests broke out in Cape Town and more than 10,000 people were arrested. This incident convinced anti-apartheid leader Nelson Mandela to abandon his non-violent stance and organise para-military groups to fight South Africa's system of institutionalised racial discrimination. In 1964 after some minor military action, Mandela was convicted of treason and sentenced to life in prison. He was released after 27 years and in 1994 was elected the first black President of South Africa. RIP Nelson Mandela. Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 7 December 2013 9:18:07 AM
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WHY>>is/it..relevant?
[those..who dont/learn-the\LESSONS/of..the past/repeat-it its..funny..how..a throw-away..line be-comes..more/reliant..only/after reposing..further..info..came. http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=15786&page=0 yet..it did..[funny/how..the big thing.. they/have..*in-common..is/not..race.. [their..both semites] but..yet/kept segre-gated..in..gulages..[slums]..and by artifices..implying..a lesser/servile being*/being..sub-servient-servant* to...a mater*class it/is..class_war..nelson..not race-wars noted/..Lawrence Of Arabia,..has a big role..in/the israel thing i guess..this explains..his..'after/life'..experiences.. [maybe..there is a/clue..there..that may/help..here] http://www.divinetruth.com/PDF/People/Other/Jane%20Sherwood%20-%20Post%20Mortem%20Journal.pdf i expect..nelson..will too/soon..correct the record anyhow..source/info..here-under/extracted..from..page 2 http://www.opednews.com/articles/2/Netanyahu-s-Flawed-Vatican-by-James-Wall-Arab_Catholic_Father_History-131202-986.html an article..re netenyahoos..gift of a book..to the pope http://www.opednews.com/articles/1/Netanyahu-s-Flawed-Vatican-by-James-Wall-Arab_Catholic_Father_History-131202-986.html the book http://amzn.to/18bUy20 anyhow This SECRET*..Vatican document..is referenced in an important/new book..by Scott Anderson,..Lawrence In Arabia: War, Deceit,..Imperial Folly..and the Making of/the Modern Middle East. In the spring of 1917,..the Turkish Ottoman ruler/of Syria was Djemal Pasha...When the British army..was poised to strike Gaza City in February, Djemal Pasha ordered..the evacuation..of Gaza City's entire population,..a total..of around 20,000 citizens. He wanted to clear..the area for hisarmy to move in..and defend Gaza. After defeating the British/in a cleared out Gaza, Djemal Pasha and his German commanders looked north. They suspected that the British/would next attack Jaffa..(now a modern Tel Aviv)...The city had..a population of 40,000, of which around 10,000 were Jews..and around 4,000 were Arab Christians,..living alongside Arab Muslims. After the defeat in Gaza,..the Ottomans were/afraid that the British would attack Jaffa from the sea,..using the city's smooth beaches for easy access. The British defeat at Gaza came on March 26,1917. Two days later,..assuming the British would turn north, Dejmal ordered the evacuation of the entire population, Christians, Jews and Muslims. He gave the residents a week/to prepare to move out. When Jewish leaders protested that the sacred Passover holiday was about to begin, Dejmal extended the evacuation order for an additional eight days. Anderson writes:.."By clearing the city, Djemal Pasha unwittingly set in motion one of the most consequential misinformation campaigns of World War I." Ignoring the fact that Jews were joined by Christians and Muslims in the forced evacuation,..the Zionist propaganda machine went into action, building the movement of the Jaffa population into an attack on all Jews of Palestine. The British Jewish Chronicle newspaper led the way with a May 4 story that carried the subhead: "Grave Reports..Terrible Outrages..Threats of Wholesale Massacre." Posted by one under god, Saturday, 7 December 2013 9:39:52 AM
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little known fact
On 10 September 1986 Fidel Castro accepted Crocker's proposal in principle. ...President P.W. Botha asserted that South Africa would withdraw from Angola only..the Africans were asked for the release of Nelson Mandela..as a sign of goodwill, . http://www.google.com.au/search?q=castro+withdrawal..angola..mandela&ved=0CB0QvwU anyhow..HE WOULD STILL..*BE IN JAIL but for fidel castro get/it? The very powers that ardently support Israel’s apartheid state are the ones shedding the most crocodile tears at the passing of Nelson Mandela. Where were their tears and support when he sat in prison for 27 years? Where are their tears for the thousands of Palestinians who perished under Israel’s occupation of their land? * The Obamas The Harpers The Camerons Even The Royal Family ….. See THIS report to see who else http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/07/world/africa/nelson-mandela-international-reaction.html?hp&_r=0 Their tears are literally dropping on the checks yet..they are sending in support of Israeli apartheid ….. * http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=W-qtmi6C3OY Hypocrisy at its greatest. http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2013/12/05/bella-ciao-dear-comrade-nelson/ Posted by one under god, Saturday, 7 December 2013 10:11:07 AM
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Ho’oponopono: I am an ancient Hawaiian problem solving process
I am composed of three elements: repentance, forgiveness, and transmutation. I am a petition..initiated by the Conscious Mind to Divine Intelligence..to void memories to reestablish Self I-Dentity. I begin with the Conscious Mind.
Repentance: I am the beginning of the Ho’oponopono process initiated by the Conscious Mind as a petition to Divine Intelligence to transmute memories to Void. With me, the Conscious Mind acknowledges its responsibility for the memories replaying problems in its Subconscious Mind, having created, accepted, and accumulated them.
“I AM SORRY.”
Forgiveness: Along with Repentance, I am a petition from the Conscious Mind to Divine Creator to transform memories in the Subconscious Mind to Void. Not only is the Conscious Mind sorrowful, it is also asking Divine Intelligence for forgiveness.
“PLEASE FORGIVE ME.”
Transmutation: Divine Intelligence uses me to neutralize and to release memories to Void in the Subconscious Mind. I am available for use only by Divine Intelligence.
“THANK YOU.”
“I LOVE YOU.”
And, as I’ve already written, when “transmutation” occurs, you are at “zero” and miracles occur.
In closing, nothing speaks more to miracle creation (for me!) than A Course In Miracles (ACIM), which essentially tells us that it is our natural nature to create miracles, but our human error gets in our way.
That human error is fear, or expressions of fear, as opposed to love. In ACIM it speaks to the process of correction (like Ho’oponopono’s problem solving process), which contains these steps:
Know first that this is fear.
Fear arises from lack of love.
The only remedy for lack of love is perfect love.
Perfect love is the Atonement.
See the parallels?
May you send away your fear, and call up your perfect love.
May you see the miraculous being that you are, and always be miracle ready.
May you find your Self I-Dentity.
I’m sorry. Please forgive me. Thank you. I love you.
the process..is easy..[one example]
http://new-birth.net/booklet/Gone_West.pdf