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Do we ban the religion, or just wait for the inevitable to happen here.
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Posted by Foxy, Monday, 25 November 2013 5:42:22 PM
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Foxy,
It would be nice if all Muslims were like Aftab Malik but he is a minority in ideas as he tries to adapt Islam to democratic ideas. But be sure most Muslims despise Western society and loose attitudes. They want to change the West not let the West change them. Look to Indonesia do they want to change Australia or do they want to be like Australia. Posted by Josephus, Monday, 25 November 2013 6:46:32 PM
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Dear Josephus,
I value your opinion. We've had some interesting discussions in the past and you always put a different perspective onto issues. All I can say in this particular case is that I prefer to be more optimistic (call me naive) and hope that the future generations will differ from some of the radical influences that may bear down on them. Education is the key. Posted by Foxy, Monday, 25 November 2013 6:55:48 PM
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Foxy, "Education is the key"
Specifically, what education would that be? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/columnists/article-2430179/MANZOOR-MOGHAL-Veils-segregated-schools-risk-sowing-seeds-Islamic-terror-Britain.html Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 25 November 2013 8:32:04 PM
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otb,
What education would that be, you ask? Haven't you been reading my posts? I'm referring of course to moderate Muslim teachers like Aftab Malik who was invited by the Lebanese Muslim Association to speak at its "Contextualising Australian Muslims" summit. I posted all this information earlier to Danielle, but I'm happy to repeat it here for your information, seeing as you asked. Aftab Malik spent 3 months in Lakemba, Sydney. He's a British Muslim teacher and he wrote several articles, "Familiar Problems in Lakemba: Reflections of a British Muslim." As I stated earlier his underlying message was that religious extremism (or zealots) have no place in the faith and needed to be rejected. His message is teaching Islam in a manner that makes sense to them living as Muslims in Australia in the 21st Century. Education by moderate teachers such as Aftab Malik is what I am talking about. The following link may help: http://www.abc.net.au/religion/articles/2013/07/16/3803980.htm Posted by Foxy, Monday, 25 November 2013 10:00:41 PM
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Foxy,
Again I ask, "Specifically what education?". Or do you imagine that the UK and other European countries are completely stupid and haven't done their earnest best to encourage 'moderate' Islam and enlightened education? Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 25 November 2013 11:28:57 PM
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Our hope in this country lies with the younger
generations and with moderate teachers like
Aftab Malik who teaches Islam in a manner that
makes sense to them living as Muslims in
Australia in the 21st Century.
His underlying message is that religious extremism (or
zealots) has no place in the faith and it needed to be
rejected.
More teachers like him are needed to deliver this sort
of message.