We are a democratic society with restricted social behaviour, and as such conflict with Islamic ideology and theocracy. I write on an Islamic website where Kurdistan and its child brides policy is upheld as acceptable example of social behaviour. For Muslims it justifies Mohamed's taking a six year old Alisha as a bride. This is the type of ideology some Muslims see as legal behaviour because their beloved prophet was sanctioned by Allah to take such a child bride.

Western democratic values will directly conflict with Islamic theocracy that is why they want local shariah laws in their community. We must maintain one law for all Australian citizens; no matter their culture or religion.

Danielle, "Don't temporary migrant workers receive the same award rates as others? I would have thought that the unions would want this."

If you Google a bit you will find a lot of concerns that temporary migrant workers may not be accorded the Award conditions and there are persistent claims from unions that Aussie workers are displaced to 'restructure' to employ temporary migrant workers in fewer positions in a casualised workforce where work conditions have been warped severely. That can extend from larger employers who find ways to get rid of middle aged staff who have (say) sick leave they have not used, prudently keeping it for the conditions that come with age and stress, to small employers, often ethnics themselves, who employ under workshop conditions.

Foxy,

While you are back-pedalling since I pulled you up on social, employment and immigration laws and on obvious social justice issues, you nonetheless did quote with great relish what you strongly implied to be temporary migrant workers doing work that Australians would not do for the low pay, or could not do because Aussies were inferior somehow.

If what you appear to be alleging you were informed by your senior management source of that large health employer has any truth, it may have some explaining to do.

The record is there for any to go back on.

OUG,

My personal preference is for the kilt, a mode of dress that has much to recommend it albeit with some disadvantages.

otb,

David F., put it so beautifully on this thread when he
wrote- "one way of arguing is putting words
in other people's mouths..."

Dear Danielle,

Here is an article that may be of interest it's by Aftab Malik
who had a 3 month stay in Lakemba, Sydney. He's from the UK
and was invited by the Lebanese Muslim Association to speak
at their "Contextualising Australian Muslims" summit. He
was part of a program that was involved in teaching Islam
in a manner that made sense to them living as Muslims in
Australia in the 21st Century.

The title of the article as you will see is "Familiar Problems
in Lakemba: Reflections of a British Muslim." It makes for
interesting reading.

His underlying message was:

1) Muslims need to be merciful to themselves and others.
2) Knowledge about Islam had to be taken from authoritative
individuals and not autodidacts.
3) Shariah (Islamic Law) is not a static force, but something
that is fluid and dynamic as those interpreting it.
4) Religious extremism (or zealots) has no place in the faith
and it needed to be rejected.

However, he did admit that delivering these messages wasn't
always easy. Still, perhaps there is hope that change can
occur through moderate influences such as this person of
influence.

http://www.abc.net.au/religion/articles/2013/07/16/3803980.htm

ahh..for the freedom..of the kilt
[my burden..are wooden shoes]

sure they kept my ancestors feet dry..
but..they..just arnt good for sneaking up with

they are called clompen..cause thats
the sound..they make when..im wearing them..

yet the grand-kiddies so love the noise
its all..just dress-up..thats how we face the world
its our differences..we honor..but our sameness we miss.

Foxy, <David F., put it so beautifully on this thread when he wrote- "one way of arguing is putting words in other people's mouths...">

Which is precisely what you are doing by implying that his comments were to support you.

Previously you dropped Belly's name as well. Hope he likes being associated with you applauding low wages for temporary migrant workers. We should be thankful temporary migrant workers are prepared to work for those low wages you said, not caring a jot about their rights until I reminded you, and displaying your dismissive 'I'm alright, Jack' attitude to the hundreds of nurse graduates who can't get jobs and will lose their hard-won nursing registrations.

Your original comment was directed at blaming Abbott, when it was done under the watch of the Labor/Greens governments with PMs Kevin Rudd and your much adored Julia Whatshername at the helm. Any wonder traditional Labor people despair the rise of that pair, although Julia Whatshername would have been the worst PM by far, ever.