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Child sex offenders and the Catholic Church

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Belly, "Again we will see more words in print and in all Medea about Gay marriage than about acts against Children"

That is sadly true. So too on OLO.
Posted by onthebeach, Friday, 25 October 2013 9:56:03 PM
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Well lets look at what we do read here.
Once a real life victim posted here, and his words told a story, his written words told of just one of his on going troubled life.
We have had many threads and few who do not mirror my feelings.
But we continue not to as OTB grasped, read about the crime because it continues to take place.
And too hiding the offense and offenders continues.
YMCA openly told us, it both had no policy,s in place to protect kids and nothing was done about it when offense,s did take place.
Looking back at past revelations I have a clear memory of staff at an orphanage saying openly they gave a boy toa police officer ever weekend he asked!
No effort to protect those kids has emerged.
There is the basic awfulness of the crime, some will never tell what they know about ministers and police.
And we call our selfs human.
The victim has a life ruined and some times some of us refuse to believe their cry for help.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 26 October 2013 11:04:28 AM
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i..admit..i even avoid talking about the issue
its just..too close..to..home..so i will..follow the signs..of the times

there is a shared guilt....guilt all round
those not told hate the knowing..and really..it was less hurtful than falling of a horse..or a house..its said..we move on..or keep the poor me victim/mentality going..for how long..into eternity?

usually by now..we are in/a shhhhh it fight
about mahomoud..or early church-elders..and under age kids
these kids grew up..respected..serving with the greatest minds..of their times..

they often became messengers in-turn
[one common thing..i..have found..is sexual-abuse
is the biggest/in-common/part..of those homeless..or in..unworthy/in-humane-jobs..[its extremes..our greatest/minds were awoken..to..;other'..external/realities

it comes to/mind..that a slave
eats the same food as his master
lives with.the same comforts..thinks as one mind..with their husbanded master [children..often..get the same education..as the master..have access to the books..a good servant..has earned his treats/theirs2keep.

we used to....abandon..kids in..the bush
or sent them.. into the work house[or prison..instead of the bread winner going to..jail..ok..so my uncle played with..my penis..would the unmolested me..have the same mind..if not awoken?

who knows...but i have found..most intellectual
minds..had that eye/opening experience

the side-affect..was i..couldnt even..hug my own..kids[ever]
without the thought..negative/echo..[past/life-event].holding me back..from even touching them..or other.

i seee a guy..hugging their kid
i..must resist..my mind from..screaming..pervert
we dont need..more of me..

touching dont mean
[i dont know what it means..
any touching of..other is in..my..damaged-mind...is too much..like imposing your will upon other..physical/mental..rape][its too strong a ward

but mind rape[visualization]..=
precedes the actualization..of..rape..and once you know..
you cant forget..[yes its mind rape..then the endless judgments]..

so much depends on..the scars..the victim rake..over
and over..and over..in..our damaged minds..but into..upon..every life..some reign..must fall

how to..help..them..
reign.,.their/our/the..beast instincts in?
keeping it all..with/in..mind..not into heart..or work's..[nor words]..
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 26 October 2013 1:10:22 PM
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Oneundergod, I am so sorry to read about your terrible experience as a child.

No, I don't believe anyone is better off, mind wise, for having been sexually abused as a child,
if that is what you were trying to say?

Sure, many children grow up to be strong, capable adults, regardless of their dreadful childhoods, but also, many don't.

Our prisons and mental health system are predominantly full of people who were abused in some way as kids.
Posted by Suseonline, Saturday, 26 October 2013 6:06:23 PM
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OUG Mate what can I say, what in truth can anyone say.
I am so very sorry and even if you think I can never know I feel your pain.
As a bloke who gave up much of his youth to bring up my last 5 siblings, then stayed to help mum, Dad was dead, bring up 5 off a sisters, I know good men must be careful.
Careful around kids, to be seen cuddling a little girl or boy in public or private is not to be done.
Grand Dads photographing their grand kids at a beach ,have had half wits call the police.
Mate bare with me please I think we must never let any one hide from this crime.
Fair Dinkum I have told of the sweetest you girl living close to me, using my home and my family then living here, to hide from her own father, a man who went on to take the smile from her face forever.
Too told of a man I found crying in my chook pen, the day after my sister gave birth.
Dad and Mum then after Dad died gave him and his siblings a home.
We loved those kids, he became a pedophile, and nothing I said made him think he broke his family,s heart and still does.
Mate you and I know things some refuse to see.
I class any rape as a hate crime from a hateful offender.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 26 October 2013 6:42:08 PM
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In my book, people like Pell and his supporters in successive Australian guvments, are criminal and unfit to rule and under no circumstances should they be given the opportunity to hold important office again.

They are protecting both themselves and the rock spiders by not changing the law so that they may be fully held to account.

In North America victims receive 1,000,000 dollars. In this vile little country's system people receive something like $32,000.

I was interested to hear David Marr speak during an interview regarding his contribution to the "Quarterly Essay."

One thing that surprised me though was that the linkages to the treatment of the Original people, where it was quite acceptable to abuse them in a wide variety of ways, are not being made.

I myself was brought up surrounded by:

" ... It is the duty of every patriotic Australian male to xxxx a Gin and breed them out. ... "

You must remember, that even unto recent times you had rock spider nuns stealing babies in hospitals and the point of course is that long had the trash in this place being doing the same to the original people as they sought to eradicate them and steal their property.

And now, with the abuses against the unwanted asylum seekers, what you may come to learn the hard way is that when you allow by your vote for your representatives to abuse people, that when push comes to shove, they will also mistreat you. History certainly suggests, in my view, that this is more likely than not.

When on holiday recently a drunk said to me, " ... xxxx me Jesus, a kid just got buggered in the dunny and this is the sort of xxxx they want to let into Australia. "

Of course, I do not know if that is true, but even if it were, no doubt it would be hidden, and that in and of itself speaks volumes.

Belly, I cannot begin to tell you what a pleasure it was to see the ALP get flushed.
Posted by DreamOn, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 11:57:12 PM
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