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New Marriage laws for the ACT

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Danielle, "Up until the seventies in Australia, and possibly later, children who were born out of wedlock were refused entry into the public service"

Do you have a source for that?
Posted by onthebeach, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 11:12:16 PM
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onethebeach,

I experienced this personally.

I received notification from the public service refusing my application for a position. The reasons were "tactfully" alluded to. I sought clarification and the situation was explained to me. Although I had been legally adopted by my stepfather overseas, I didn't pursue the issue further.

Other than this personal experience, I have no other reference to provide. There may have been other issues of which I was not aware, but the explanation given was "the circumstances of your birth".
Posted by Danielle, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 12:00:10 AM
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danielle/quote..<<>.Traditionally, the legal position of a newborn was that it had no personhood,>>..

yes..that point becomes clear..only..AFTER..the act..of birthing
[like a ship emerges from the waters..to berth]..see we are under the law of the seas[maritime law]..[the prisoner sits in..the dock]..when a ship-docks and dischages its cargo..the cargo..is accorded a berthing certification[a berth certificate
http://macquirelatory.com/Birth%20Certificate%20Truth.htm

ditto a person[under the act]..has been registered as cargo
as witnessed by our birthing[live birth]certification..creating a legal person/under the act..thus a slave/person/under the act

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nQVv2OmpqQ

http://www.google.com.au/search?q=person+berthing+%2Fbirth+water

see to obtain..the berthing certification..a person..under the act..needs apply[applying means beg]..and the begger is presumed to know for what he begs[freemen..need no permissions..need ask n0 one..they are fee-born..but in a world of masters and slaves[realities versus fictions]..[satans realm of paper]

we are enslaved [dehumanized into statehood jurisdiction/fictions.[personhood..immediately we emerge from..our mothers waters[our parents by virtue of being persons under the marriage act..cannot conceive[sic]a freeborn being..because they are slaves[persons/under the law..thus /under the act]..its rightly said two wongs cant breed a right

anyhow the person..[unde the act]
..is created..when you sign ANYTHING
[its achieved..by the mark/of the beast*..
ie your sig-nature..gives life to the dead fiction

put your mark here
XXX

welcome into satans realm of statehood paperhood personhoood fiction
Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 6:28:22 AM
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The preparatory document for next year’s Synod of Bishops on the Family was formally released at a news conference in the Vatican on Tuesday.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/deaconsbench/2013/11/vatican-releases-full-text-of-document-and-survey-questions-for-2014-synod-of-bishops-on-the-family/

The synod’s theme is “The pastoral challenges to the Family in the context of Evangelization and it will run from the 5th to the 19th of October 2014.

The document gives an overview of Church teaching on the family and spells out in a frank manner the many daunting challenges facing the family in today’s society, saying there is an urgency for the Church to address these challenges.

The document also includes a questionnaire or consultation containing 39 questions on family issues that has been sent to bishops conferences around the world asking them to share it as widely as possible so that input from local sources can be received.

http://www.news.va/en/news/preparing-for-the-synod

f ) Could a simplification of canonical practice in recognizing a declaration of nullity of the marriage bond provide a positive contribution to solving the problems of the persons involved? If yes, what form would it take?
g) Does a ministry exist to attend to these cases? Describe this pastoral ministry? Do such programmes exist on the national and diocesan levels? How is God’s mercy proclaimed to separated couples and those divorced and remarried and how does the Church put into practice her support for them in their journey of faith?

5. On Unions of Persons of the Same Sex
a) Is there a law in your country recognizing civil unions for people of the same-sex and equating it in some way to marriage?
b) What is the attitude of the local and particular Churches towards both the State as the promoter of civil unions between persons of the same sex and the people involved in this type of union?
c) What pastoral attention can be given to people who have chosen to live in these types of union?
d) In the case of unions of persons of the same sex who have adopted children, what can be done pastorally in light of transmitting the faith?

6. The Education of Children in Irregular Marriages
Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 7:32:11 AM
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http://goldengaiadb.com/Reincarnation_and_the_Purpose_of_Life#Gender.2C_Gender_Change.2C_and_Androgyny

Two great principles which are included in the Unity of Godhead were made to appear as two separate things in order that those two principles might be studied in detail by those who were not competent to study them as One.

But when the male considers the female he is but getting at a more clear understanding of a part of himself, and so when the female reasons on the male. For as they were not separate in the eternities / of development which went before this present eternity of matter and form, so the two elements shall, become one again in those eternities which shall come after.
Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 8:41:31 AM
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one under god,

You have made interesting points and I am sure there are many who agree them.

As I understand it, some clergy are prepared to marry same sex couples. Perhaps some one who is better informed about this than I, could comment.
Posted by Danielle, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 12:34:04 PM
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