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Where is the contrition for the drowned?
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Posted by Luciferase, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 9:30:12 PM
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Another disgruntled Labor looser.
Posted by Josephus, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 7:44:15 AM
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Australia is not to blame for the risks people from other countries take who loose their lives. More lives of non citizens of Australia were lost at sea attempting to reach Australian shores, under the Government of the last four years than since the settlement of Australia in the 18th - 19th century. Australia does not bear the blame!
Posted by Josephus, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 7:52:41 AM
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The deaths at sea lie solely at the feet of the previous labor government and Lucyface is a prime example of left whinger hypocrisy.
Considering that lucyface herself has yet to admit that the illegal boat problem is due entirely to pull factors in Australia and not push factors the Malaysian solution, according to her logic would have no effect. Labor in 2010 for the first time admitted that it had been lying and that the illegal boat problem was due to pull factors not push factors, refused to use Nauru as it was not a signatory to the UNHCR and Juliar sucked up the East Timor solution out of her backside, without even discussing this with East Timor. Then after Nauru and PNG became signatories to the UNHCR charter, the idiots in Labor dreamed up the Malaysian solution with a country with probably the worst human rights record in the region, with nothing more than an "agreement" to protect the women and children. This is excluding the fact that the 800 person limit would be met in weeks. Labor then proceeded with a half Rsed attempt to open Nauru and Manus sending only a tiny fraction off shore, and sending the human traffickers a business as usual message. So now we have an Indonesian boat, with an Indonesian crew, leaving an Indonesian port sinking in Indonesian waters, with 2 simultaneous rescues in progress and a left whinger puffed up with faux outrage and hypocrisy trying to blame the only party that seems to be genuinely fixing the problem. Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 7:59:39 AM
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There really is no other way to describe this bloke, & a few of his rabid lady friends that post here. They are sick.
No thinking, intelligent person could possibly, rationally, blame the new government for the recent sinking of a couple of boats. I just can't imagine the twisted thought processes that could lead anyone to come up with Luci's post. God it must be awful living in some lefties minds, that much hate must control their whole lives. Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 9:10:04 AM
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Obfuscating baloney, Shallow Minister. The criticism is that, despite what you want us to believe, Abbott had no genuine issue with Malaysia but was happy to criticize in furthering a political aim ahead of averting drownings by allowing Labor's solution to work.
Your second paragraph is convoluted drivel. Stick to the subject. Whether you think the Malaysian solution would or would not have worked is not the issue. The rest of your is your version of history, as if it's relevant. No, this is about Abbott's character. We have a do anything, say anything, scurrying, dodging, rorting PM, vowing this thing and vowing that. For all his principled, pious self-holiness, everything is just a performance to further himself politically from opposing the Malaysian solution to riding bikes, to fighting fires, to his supposed special connection to the indigenous community http://www.independentaustralia.net/2013/politics/tony-abbotts-costly-indigenous-community-volunteering/ Posted by Luciferase, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 9:15:59 AM
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I begin to shake when I see him on TV now, I am just so totally enraged. He latest exploit leaves me completely and utterly flabbergasted!
Now he stands up before us and Malaysia apologizing (yet again) and offering contrition, saying he never had a concern about Malaysia and its possible role in stopping boat drownings through an agreement with the Gillard gov't, despite all he/LNP had said in parliament. It was all just a show, a bit of good ol' rough'n'tumble Ozzie politics!
So, instead of allowing the passage of parliamentary legislation that would save lives, he chose a calculated political path that was ultimately a central plank in his gaining power. It was never a case of Malaysia not being a signatory to the UN refugee convention (while he was happy to turn/tow boats back towards Indonesia, also a non-signatory). Nor was there a concern over Malaysia's humanity. No, not at all, he never really, actually, had a problem with Malaysia!
The gaping grin as he related this this and the dismissive waving of his ever moving hands have left me completely cold. To act as he did over the Malaysian solution is one thing, but to openly acknowledge that it was for pure political gain was audaciously, gob-smackingly, honest!
How many unfortunates have drowned since then? It is they who deserve Abbott's contrition, not Malaysia!