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We got it wrong on warming, says IPCC
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Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 26 September 2013 10:14:30 AM
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Parrot,
If you over indulge in alarmist tripe, you will find plenty of unsubstantiated papers. I don't deny climate change, neither do I feel it necessary to wildly over exaggerate the effects and consequences. I read peer reviewed articles in respected journals, and unsurprisingly their conclusions and certainty differ considerably from the alarmist BS that is often in the public arena. I have the science background to differentiate between research and propaganda which you obviously lack. Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 26 September 2013 11:21:49 AM
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I guess it all depends on how you define "significant", Loudmouth.
Personally, I would suggest that having 9 out of ten hottest years on record occurring this century, DESPITE a significant slowing down (note, slowing down, not stopping) of the warming trend to be “significant”; ten of ten if we use the 17 years so beloved by flat earthers... It should also be noted as Poirot points out that the temperature record is largely about atmospheric temperatures; no one is quite clever enough to put together a “whole of earth” (crust, deep ocean, atmosphere) temperature record as yet. These are things genuine scientists would I'm sure cheerfully -or at least, willingly- admit, because that's what scientists do; discovering what was previously unknown is what they live for -as compared to people who get all their 'science' from tabloid newsrags, or the back of cornflakes packets. I agree with Shadow minister that some claims appear to be far fetched, but the point is, we really don't know, do we? As we know, there was a time when the idea that the world was round must have seemed incredibly far-fetched. There are still people who find the concept of evolution far-fetched, incredibly enough. Surely the simple fact that these worst case scenarios are scientifically plausible, even if unlikely, should give us pause. Is the right to pollute our environment and waste non-renewable resources really worth fighting for? Posted by Grim, Thursday, 26 September 2013 2:55:32 PM
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"I have the science background to differentiate between research and propaganda which you obviously lack."
Hee, hee...how familiar, from non-climate specialists. I'll see your parrot and raise you one denierbird. Lol! Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 26 September 2013 2:58:27 PM
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Correction:
I said earlier that the Climate Council raised $400,000 in two days. Apparently that amount was raised through donations from the public in only 24 hours. http://watchingthedeniers.wordpress.com/2013/09/24/power-to-the-people-reborn-climate-counicl-raises-400k-in-24-hours/ Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 26 September 2013 3:33:23 PM
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Parrot, your childish response obviously means that you have no scientific background whatsoever,
Parrot or liar-bird? Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 26 September 2013 3:33:43 PM
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"....When are you going o stand-up and DEMAND Tim Flannery tell us all who is funding his new position?"
(Gawd, there's some thickies around here:)
It's "Crowd-funded".
http://www.climatecouncil.org.au/
Raised their first $400,000 in two days from donations.
SM,
If you over-indulge in denier tripe (there's plenty out there) at the expense of expert analysis, you'll confirm your bias.