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We got it wrong on warming, says IPCC
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Posted by Belly, Saturday, 21 September 2013 6:22:39 AM
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Belly I suggest the first nuclear power station in Australia be built in your bqckyard, I certainly don't want it in mine, or my grandkids yard. After every nuclear disaster the pro bunch always trot out the same old line, "It wont happen again, we have new technology, we have best practice." that line only works until the next unforeseen disaster.
There are plenty of safe renewable energy alternatives to fossil fuels, nuclear is not one of them. We only need the will to apply safe renewable and sustainable alternatives, but unfortunately vested interest in the form of big coal, big oil and big business make such mega profits that they wont countenance alternatives to their cash cows. We have the Abbott government working for these vested interests at this very moment. To the pro nuclear mob, this could be all yours one day. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/04/world/asia/errors-cast-doubt-on-japans-cleanup-of-nuclear-accident-site.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 21 September 2013 7:34:49 AM
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I am no scientist, I simply rely on practical experience and the knowledge that there are many things that humans do not have any impact on. Things like tides, wind, volcanos, earthquakes and continental drift. I cannot see that humans can have any impact on the climate of the world. Whether we get warmer or colder, or the magnetic poles are shifting is all natural occurance and we can do nothing about that, except adapt to any change.
Below is a link to a scientist's opinion that seems to me to be credible and practical. http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/opinion/report-gives-the-truth-about-climate-at-last/story-fni0cwl5-1226720428390 Posted by Banjo, Saturday, 21 September 2013 9:01:33 AM
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Paul,
My point was that to confuse pollution with global warming opens the debate to consideration of nuclear power and makes it more acceptable, since ostensibly it avoids both. As I asked Warmair, is that what you want to happen ? One degree in a century, one inch sea-level rise in a century. Dynamic capitalism ready to seize any new opportunities to make money from new technologies (hence one of the biggest supporters of Green Energy, General Electric). Not really that much to get hysterical about. But feel free :) Joe Posted by Loudmouth, Saturday, 21 September 2013 9:36:49 AM
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Banjo, you sure can pick em, nothing like an unbiased opinion;
Bob Carter is on the payroll of the Heartland Institute, which itself is funded by polluting industries (Exxon, Scaife Foundations and Koch Family Foundations, etc). According to the Sydney Morning Herald in 2007, Carter was "on the research committee at the Institute of Public Affairs, a think tank that has received funding from oil and tobacco companies, and whose directors sit on the boards of companies in the fossil fuel sector" and believed, SMH said, that "the role of peer review in scientific literature was overstressed." Got any other unbiased experts? LOL Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 21 September 2013 9:46:46 AM
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who..paul..does not have a bias..he defends?
facts are spin.. [we ignorants..dont get the science..thus=hollow cost deniers] so tell me..how does a tax..on 1000. [no 300?..only will pay..now]..lol how will 300 polluters stop..the masses polluting? it was a TAX..on..all of us..not JUST*.300..the LIE* the sin..is the spin we all going to drown..[picture of polar bear sitting onice flow/hunting a seal..becomes THE ICE IN THE SKY>>IS FALLING we need to tax polluters never mind that when thatcher first concieved the tax it was global COOLING*..that became warming..then climate CHANGE http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-09-18/science/42182028_1_sunspots-maunder-minimum-solar-cycle the only constant..was..TAX us recall..if you will..THE ozone hole..panic[warming warning so we dumped cfcs..and the OZONE HOLE..is stil warming..bui8t we got rid of cfc doing it but couldnt tax cfc so hey carbon..its WEIGHTLESS..so lets tax it by the ton now how are the numbers..going down again? what you can make a hockey model stick great go for it..how much free govt cash you lopt..want the tax on thin air.. will..[pay it all-off].. and we buy up..the polluting alternative.. to rebuild industrialization..completely..to destroy and impverish govt/people what was public asset.. now into cooperate capitalist gain the poor fools feel the ongoing pain the rich..have banked their gain http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-09-18/science/42182028_1_sunspots-maunder-minimum-solar-cycle once they ran that down..govt cash..fixes it.. yet again..gain* again..going to the same* guilt..then tax the lies is coming un-done http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article36280.htm those who defend the indefensible.. say we work for..the exploiters..CURRENTLY..ripping..us off http://www.wakingtimes.com/2013/09/16/corporate-propaganda-fox-news-sells-fracking-as-incredibly-good-for-our-environment/ yet its they defending lies see the big boys run..the green/industrial..bubbles true cost that lost..lo going fast http://investmentwatchblog.com/stock-market-sell-off-186-the-bernanke-rally-is-already-collapsing-big-boys-getting-out/ http://whatreallyhappened.com/Aaron%20Dykes,%20Truthstream%20Media tax gmo http://whatreallyhappened.com/Melissa%20Melton,%20Truthstream%20Media more bail;outs http://investmentwatchblog.com/hundred-thousand-investors-told-sorry-we-cant-pay-you-just-the-beginning/ http://investmentwatchblog.com/too-big-to-fail-is-now-bigger-than-ever-before/ Posted by one under god, Saturday, 21 September 2013 10:48:51 AM
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Nuclear power will be the best way to reduce global warming.
Remember any such power here would be best practice.
And look no further that the far far less than that Japan used.
In fact no one could do worse than they did.
We must not let the pink left conservationists stop the best clean up the planet tool Nuclear power.