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Weather you like him or not he says what he thinks and has the cash to back it up. This comment say heaps about the unethical and immoral AEC system that we have had to put up with for years.
Clive Palmer is definitely "Not Happy"

http://au.news.yahoo.com/queensland/a/-/latest/18911559/recount-no-good-result-is-rigged-palmer/

I have just had been ridiculed by the AEC over missing votes.

There are about 13000 people living in the Torres Straits and I can only find about 3000 votes recorded. When I asked the AEC they said "give us your name and phone number and we'll get back to you.
When, next election?"
Posted by chrisgaff1000, Friday, 13 September 2013 7:12:15 PM
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Not so hard to believe.

The AEC found 1,000 "missing votes" in Indi which were "all" for Cathy McGowan....she is now set to beat Mirabella.

If they hadn't been recovered, Mirabella would have retained the seat by a narrow margin.
Posted by Poirot, Friday, 13 September 2013 11:00:12 PM
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chrisgaff1000,
13,000 ? Where does that figure come from ? The Strait is heavy Labor I know but 13 thousand ? I suppose that includes the many TSI living on the mainland.
I have heard of polling booths always being run by teachers & going by the tactics & educational standard over there I wouldn't be at all surprised if the numbers didn't add up.
The Strait has been Labor for many years as a result of funding being provided faster than it can be wasted & gobbled up by consultants & bureaucrats. It literally is a goldmine for them.
Posted by individual, Friday, 13 September 2013 11:22:35 PM
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Does Big Clive actually have any evidence of electoral corruption or is this just sour grapes because he lost?

Cheers,

Tony
Posted by Tony Lavis, Friday, 13 September 2013 11:39:04 PM
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individual,
You are quite correct about Labor domination and I am surprised to hear your understanding of how voting is run in the island communities.
The Teachers union is the dominant force being far left wing and social intimidation is the tool most used by them to bring about the result they need.
They know all the kids and through them the families and it is very to offer inducements and hold out unfounded fears as truth to the locals.
I feel that this election was even more biased since Labor and the Union had their workers all fitted out in blood red uniforms with matching caps and lots of innuendo about Torres Strait becoming a separate nation apart from the Australian Aboriginal collective.
As far as the figures are concerned most islanders who come to the mainland (Townsville, Happy Valley) do not change their registered address.
They believe that it would be a loss of traditional tie to their heritage. The figures reflect these numbers and the reasonable possibility that a lot of them did not vote at all.
If the voting was run by the teachers (union) then that might account for the missing votes.
Clive Palmer is quite correct when he calls for a full review of the voting process in Australia.
Posted by chrisgaff1000, Saturday, 14 September 2013 7:06:09 AM
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chrisgaff1000,
That reminds me of listening outside a classroom in one of the communities prior to the Goss Government election. The principal who is now fairly high up in the system, was urging the children, quote "you must tell your parents to vote Labor" unquote. This he repeated a number of times.
I have no difficulty in believing this is an on-going tactic.
Posted by individual, Saturday, 14 September 2013 11:24:04 AM
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I thought "weather" should be spelt "whether". Please people can we all check our spelling.
Posted by Lostinspace, Monday, 16 September 2013 10:33:29 AM
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Lostinspace,

Dno't bethor cmoing heer to letcrue peeps on isatloted spilleng and grmmaar mitsakes....

It's more about opinion than anything.

(Even pedantic Poirot only complains when posts are literally peppered with mistakes and people can't be bothered to self edit)
Posted by Poirot, Monday, 16 September 2013 11:35:29 AM
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"That reminds me of listening outside a classroom" Pray tell us Indi what were you doing listening outside a classroom, not that you are making this up, heaven forbid we'll never know.
I recall the Catholic Church ranting from the pulpit the Sunday prior to an election that anyone who voted Labor the next Saturday would be consigned to ever lasting damnation.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 16 September 2013 11:37:42 AM
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God the catholic church got that wrong didn't they Paul1405.

What they should have been telling them was that if they voted Labor, the whole damn country would be consigned to ever lasting damnation.

As for listening outside a classroom, it is about time a table & chairs was set up in each classroom for interested parents, or members of the public to sit in classes at any time, to check just what these teachers are pushing at our kids.
Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 16 September 2013 11:54:53 AM
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Hasbeen, wonderful idea we could have the "Thought Nazis" at the back of the classroom "checking" that teachers are not engaging in practices not "approved" by the State Department for Purity of Thought and Un-Australian Activity. Will you volunteer to be one of the checkers. Any transgressors will be promptly dispatched to the State Center for Enlightenment and Reeducation.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 16 September 2013 12:10:33 PM
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My
father was a hard nosed Irish Catholic from Dublin and he believed that the Labor Party were a bunch of Angels sent to earth to watch over us.
He believed that the leadership of the party was a heaven sent ascendancy thing much like the Pope being the direct descendant of David.
As a direct result of this lopsided theology, and a few years in Changi, he even believed that Whitlem and Hawke were Christ like deities sent to right all the wrongs on earth.
Now, as a direct extension of his theories he was able to tell which way any of us 13 kids voted and if it wasn't for the Labor Party the we got the living crap belted out of us.
Of course he didn't really know so he belted us all just in case.
Posted by chrisgaff1000, Monday, 16 September 2013 3:40:35 PM
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Pauline Hanson was thousands of first preference votes ahead of two other candidates ultimately elected at the last NSW Legislative Council election.

Not hundreds, thousands. Yet still didn't get elected.
(Nationals had 7540 less, the Greens 15470 less).

She claimed an informer said at least 1200 votes for her were sorted as "blank" ballots.
Even just those extra votes would have gotten her elected.

Considering how progressive-left bias has rotted every other institution, would we really be surprised to find anti-right-wing electoral corruption?
Posted by Shockadelic, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 3:25:56 AM
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Shockadelic,
Didn't you know that the Australian Electoral Commission is the controlling body of our democracy. It is not subject to the conventions and norms of democratic process. The AEC's job is to get the result our hidden masters want.
Posted by chrisgaff1000, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 8:16:17 AM
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I just spoke with an indigenous teacher & was told that white teachers encouraged indecisive voters to vote informal by placing empty ballot papers in the box. Now if that doesn't offer a good opportunity for an ALP biased scrutineer then I give up now. This teacher was convinced that MANY indigenous voted informal. I would be very interested to see the figures for informal votes in the seat of Leichhhardt.
Posted by individual, Friday, 20 September 2013 7:01:48 AM
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individual,
If you actually believe a left wing communist inspired, nepotistic, self serving indigenous teacher working in the Torres Islands or the northern communities then you'll believe in Noel Pearson and his brothers revival movement and fairies at the bottom of the garden.
Informal for LEICHHARDT 5.43
http://vtr.aec.gov.au/HouseDivisionFirstPrefs-17496-168.htm
Informal for NORTH SYDNEY 5.43
http://vtr.aec.gov.au/HouseDivisionFirstPrefs-17496-137.htm
It seem that argument is blown out of the water when the informal in the communities is the same as that in the posh suburbs.
Posted by chrisgaff1000, Friday, 20 September 2013 8:02:36 AM
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Indi, the seat of Leichhhardt was easily won by Enisch for the LNP with a 90% turnout and about 5% informal, Enisch ended up about 10,000 in front. Compare that with Katters seat of Kennedy which also had a 90% turnout and a %5 informal Katter won with a margin of 3,000. No difference except the margin. Nothing out of the ordinary.

"She (Hanson) claimed an informer said at least 1200 votes for her were sorted as "blank" ballots.
Even just those extra votes would have gotten her elected."
Where were her scrutineers, what about the Court of Disputed Returns. I have scrutineered many times and I find the officer in charge and his helpers always to be fair and honest Hanson has been rejected time and again by the people, they can't stomach her or her parties extremest policies. When is she going to stop trying to con the voters and forget about pocketing the cash and get back to her fish n' chip shop where she belongs.
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 20 September 2013 8:27:39 AM
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the informal in the communities is the same as that in the posh suburbs.
chrisgaff1000,
Well, I did say that this teacher said that there were MANY informal votes so where did they show up ? Entsch apparently did lose some votes, could they be those informals miraculously morphed into Labor votes ?
Posted by individual, Friday, 20 September 2013 8:41:32 AM
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Paul1405,
The Court of Disputed Returns has access costs of over $10,000 and the required need to have SC to argue to points in question. It is beyond to average citizen to access.
As far as the AEC is concerned they are a bunch of overpaid, arrogant and in many cases ignorant pseudo public servants who only have their inflated hourly rate in focus.
When I was Ted Mack's campaign manager (federal) we challenged Labor multi voting and the Commissioner of the day said "what do you want me to do? Hold another election. That would cost 52 million dollars"
My reply was yes, democracy is worth more that 52 millio0n dollars.
We did not get another election and the multi votes were counted as legitimate. Labor won.
Posted by chrisgaff1000, Friday, 20 September 2013 8:09:56 PM
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