runner,

"....thankfully now adults are running the show."

Well hadehaha!

One more time with feeling...

http://images.watoday.com.au/2011/03/24/2248655/320_abbott3.jpg

How "grown up" is that?

(Ans = "Not very")

Shallow Minister, my claim was never specifically about the Australian to which I am not a subscriber, so please point out where in the thread it is. My claim was towards Murdoch media generally.

Your challenge was not initially specifically in relation to the Australian but to Newscorp, which also owns the Telegraph. However, as your attack became more shrill and pathetic your challenge focused in on the Australian solely. I recall reading enough hardcopy Australian to be as appalled as the Labor government was with its unfair bias.

Your challenge was met with an unequivocal example which you have a gall to defend: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/carbon-tax-to-blame-for-loss-says-bill-kelty/story-fn59niix-1226718930047

Your assertion that "Most Australians are perfectly aware that the carbon tax was only partially responsible for the increase in electricity prices." refers to the enlightened, such as you, me, and Greg Hunt. Some of us spent our time misrepresenting that to the unenlightened, including omitting the fact of compensatory measures to industry (carbon credits, for example) and households (income tax cuts, pension increases), with the aid of the Murdoch media.

Newscorp Daily Telegraph roving reporter, Greg Hunt's, article was an extreme case of misrepresentation where Newscorp "directly" (allowing a conservative politician to write the article as an unbalanced dishonest "news" piece) and by "omission" of the facts I've already stated, set out to deceive the unenlightened about the effect of carbon pricing.

It is hard to become enlightened when the majority of the media (Murdoch), which people trust for their information, keeps them in the dark with shenanigans such as I've cited, and more subtly.

"....the carbon tax was the last kick in the guts when they were down." Geez, you're incorrigible! Rose was compensated for carbon pricing. She was not compensated for any other aspect of her power bill, so you can drop the BS now, the con-job is done (its job) and dusted.

State reticulation charges are state issues. http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/12/03/why-gillard-cant-prevent-gold-plating-energy-infrastructure/

Pardon, the link to the telegraph "news" story should have been http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/opinion/bill-is-in-the-mail-time-to-pay-carbon-tax-piper/story-e6frezz0-1226482093400

Lucyface,

You are right I should not have spoken about your lie about The Australian, rather about your lie about Newscorp.

No matter how you wiggle, a lie is a lie, and you told it. If you find one article in a Newscorp paper where (to use your word) it was directly asserted that the electricity price I will retract my assertion, otherwise simply stop telling porkies.

P,

Anything is more dignified than Juliar and her speaker Peter Slipper.

Shal, you're now sounding like that knight with no arms or legs from Monty Python. Give it up, you're carved to pieces.

On Thursday, 12 September 2013 1:43:29 PM I wrote "No, the 70% figure was in reference to domestic households, misinformation that was directly, or by omission, allowed to run free by the Murdoch press, as well as the fact of offsetting compensation always being avoided, just to keep things simmering along."

You interpreted this with your usual wantonly abandon and now further re-re-redefine your challenge to, "If you find one article in a Newscorp paper where (to use your word) it was directly asserted that the electricity price I will retract my assertion...."

The Telegraph "news" article from Greg Hunt was directly allowed to run free by the Telegraph, like a real news story instead of the dishonest advertorial it was, with all its factual ommissions designed to deceive the unenlightened reader. There will be no statement by Newscorp that carbon pricing was the sole cause of power price rises, only the very strong implication (bordering on assertion) that it is in the example you challenged me to cite. This is not a case of bias, but of deceit by Hunt in cahouts with Newscorp, using the tears of little old ladies to give it the emotional element to boot. Disgusting "journalism".

If ever there was a wiggling wriggler, Shallow Minister" it is you I don't expect you to retract anything, you're not built that way.

The carbon tax did it, oh yeah.

Dear Luciferase,

Here's a couple of links that may be of interest:

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/lies-damned-lies-and-australias-future-20130906-2taav.html

http://www.news.com.au/cost-of-living/tactics-turn-on-electricity-bills/story-fnagkbpv-1226493348601