Nice post JKJ. BTW, are you excusing Gillard for a carbon price that was borne of horse-trading towards the formation of a governing majority?

Abbott bloody-mindedly blocked any government achievement he could, and justified it any way he could, regardless of the brazen hypocrisy displayed in doing so. That is what he was known for, nothing to do with disrespecting a policy mandate, just the mandate to govern. His approach to the Malaysian and PNG solutions is an example, though he intends to employ the latter now he has won government.

Speaking of obsequiousness, so sad to see Sophie Mirabella going. Re the Senate, let it all hang out I say, and stuff the major parties. Voter beware. The states would have to get behind any change and that would be a feat.

No mandate Luciferase?

Labor under Rudd has managed its lowest primary vote for 100 years.....
The Coalition has 30 odd seats more.....

Kevin (I’m the PM and I want my forking special dinner) Rudd had less primary votes in his electorate than the Liberal candidate......

A delusional Rudd, a delusional Labor Party and certainly delusional Labor acolytes contributing to this thread.

Luci the premise of your thread is farcical. Given that, it has shades of Monty Pythons Black Knight’s “it’s only a flesh wound” plea when both his arms and legs have been chopped off.

If Abbott has to go to a DD to rid the senate of un representative grievance based senators with single digit primary votes so be it. But I don’t believe he will...he will buy support in the traditional manner

sonofgloin, Abbott could have claimed a mandate to force us all to wear burqas and go to church on Sundays, and he'd still have won because Labor lost. His carbon tax referendum was pure confection.

Let Abbott wield whatever political or persuasive power he has to achieve his ends, by all means, but do drop this policy mandate BS.

Luciferase>> Abbott bloody-mindedly blocked any government achievement he could, and justified it any way he could, regardless of the brazen hypocrisy displayed in doing so.<<

They are all hypocrites Luci...they are politicians.

Re the Carbon Tax deception.

Yesterday the data for the thickness of the polar ice was released.....thicker than the top end of the model.

Tidal readings at Fort Dennison in Sydney harbour have been lower than average for the past decade.

Australia produces less carbon emissions now than in 1975.

The carbon tax has forced manufacturers to shed labour or close down.

The money leaves Australia forever and it changes nothing except the lifestyles of those who manage it.

The carbon tax is not a green agenda, it's a bankers agenda....

Luciferase>>Let Abbott wield whatever political or persuasive power he has to achieve his ends, by all means, but do drop this policy mandate BS<<

Abbott opened his mouth before the election and said he would dump the carbon tax....he got voted in, amongst other pledges the tax was a primary policy mandate.

Gillard said prior to the 2010 there would be no tax......Gillard patently had no mandate to implement the tax but she did.

Luci, wait until Abbott is in for a while and you will have something to tear apart, they are all self serving truth benders, But current Labor is incompetent and unrepresentative of the membership because the branches don’t have a say in who gets the nod. Kev addressed that at Balmain two months back.

Have a look at the backgrounds of the ministers in Whitlam’s government:
Butchers, bakers, tradesmen, professors, small business owners, and some ex union officials.
Have a look at the backgrounds to the current lot:
Lawyers, union officials......do you think the rank and file chose them....the party was hijacked by Fabians and academics.

When you mentioned the Carbon Tax deception I initially thought you were talking about power costs going down by 70% with its repeal (you know, the same amount it supposedly went up due to the CT?)