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Mandates and Referenda

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Dorothy,

You have in no way supported your lie that Newscorp propagated the concept that the electricity cost increase was entirely due to the carbon tax was directly or by omission allowed to run free.

A) you have not provided one single article where this was directly stated,
B) To support the claim of omission, you need to show that in nearly all discussions of electricity pricing, the other other factors have been ignored. As I have already where in Newscorp publications there have been clear and accurate discussions of the causes of the cost rises, and there are plenty more. So the "by omission" claim is also false.

Your single link is to an "opinion" piece where the author comments on the anger in a phone call to a radio station and the implications to the government. That he then does not digress to rehash all the facts as to why you feel that "Rose" has no reason to feel angry is irrelevant to the point the author was making, and not an omission.

Lucy face, you lied. I have you cornered and you can't wiggle any more.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 16 September 2013 3:23:31 PM
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"....That he then does not digress to rehash all the facts as to why you feel that "Rose" has no reason to feel angry is irrelevant to the point the author was making, and not an omission."

Rehash all the facts! It's not an "opinion" piece, it's the "news" by roving reporter Greg Hunt, with the human interest aspect of a crying little old lady to gain the reader's sympathy in preparation for the misrepresentation to come in the article.

Nobody can tell someone how to feel, but Newscorp and Hunt were telling everybody why she felt it, it was due to that bad, bad carbon "tax".

You are as shameless as Abbott was in parliament over power bills, Shallow Minister. You're not Sophie Mirabella, are you
Posted by Luciferase, Monday, 16 September 2013 4:44:37 PM
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....and not the very healthy AAA economy.

Surely you don't fall for that rubbish Poirot, as the only reason we have a AAA is because the others are in much worse shape.

As for reinstating much needed confidence, the best way to repay debt is to boost the economy, with SPENDINGS not WASTE.

As I said before, let's wait and see, and you can be assured that I will be the first to admit it if I am wrong.
Posted by rehctub, Monday, 16 September 2013 6:24:32 PM
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Lucyface,

It's a "news" article? really?

The author is commenting on the anger, directed at the carbon tax, of Rose who is calling in to 2GB. Her anger is palpable, and as the author comments is going to be a big problem for the government. What Rose may very well be aware of the reasons for the cost increases, and it may simply be the one line item labelled "carbon tax" adding insult to injury. This is all irrelevant, she is angry at the government, as are thousands of others, and this is a bad situation for Juliar.

Your lie of Newscorp directly attributing all the cost rise to the carbon tax only needs one example to prove which you spectacularly failed to provide.

Your lie of "omission" needs to show that of the thousands of articles in Newscorp, there is a preponderance of articles that discuss the price rise of electricity and don't discuss the breakdown of the costs. This you have again spectacularly failed to do.

The only conclusion is that you lied.

You are as shameless as Juliar Gillard.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 8:46:51 AM
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Your challenge was met spectacularly, and again you want to move the goal-posts. Go jump.

Rupert has been at it for decades now. He is an insidious force against WASP democracies around the planet as he ruthlessly pursues his own agenda. His media dominance must be broken and your support for his incredible shenanigans in Australia in this election puts you in his corner.

You support for this "news" article as journalism and, no doubt, for Abbott's pathetic subterfuge in parliament over power bills, demonstrates the level of your judgement.
Posted by Luciferase, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 9:24:11 AM
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Lucy, Epic failure.

You never got anywhere near the goal posts. I asked for one article where the electricity price rise was directly attributed to the carbon tax. You have spectacularly failed to do so.

You have also failed to show that Newscorp has omitted in thousands of articles to attribute anything other than the carbon tax to the price rise. I provided 2 article that showed the break down, and you showed one opinion piece that among other things discussed the impact of the electricity price. You need a lot more than that to prove your point.

As it is clear that you are incapable of distinguishing the truth from propaganda, or even understanding what you have claimed.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 12:42:42 PM
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