Belly,

The time to the next election depends largely on the senate. TA has an active agenda and while being prepared to negotiate and compromise with the senate to some extent, is perfectly prepared to go DD in the event of obstructionism.

I already hear noises that some labor MPs are considering letting the carbon tax repeal go through.

Belly - To quote you
"Notice? I am yet again ignoring rather than combat some.
I need to back up my stand and thoughts ,with those on my side."

1st since when has this forum become a combat arena?

2nd you are ignoring people, that is your right BUT further on you say "I need to back up my stand and thoughts ,with those on my side." so what you are saying is you will ignore anyone who does not agree or has a contrary opinion as to yours. That seems a silly tactic.

Again I will remind you of something you stated QUOTE "I come here for intellectual stimulation, not the very opposite." HOW can you have what you say you come here for if you only communicate with people who have the same ideas as you.

Lastly you again resort to sarcasm here "I have no intention of swimming in an open septic tank." it appears you swim in that sewer a lot.

Folks,
Labor will pass the repeal laws. It does not have the wherewithall to fight another election. Labor wasted enormous financial resources on flying in booth workers to fill positions everywhere, uniforming them and accommodating them. They need at least three years to recover.
CG1000

Shaggy dog brilliant and so true.
The need to dump Labor, enforced in part by its self.
The quite horrible Murdock mischief making.
All took our eyes away from Tiny Tony.
Having received our lecture from spin doc, about who won.
And his trifling matter, ignoring the Senate out come, we see a truly elected, yes spin doc, will of the people stuff, hung out to dry by a house of fools.
Remember Mr Negative!
On SOME issues before that house of fools we will! what fun!
DD? longer he waits the less likely little Tony will have the jam tart to call one.

Belly - It is now evident you have no reply to the people you attack or try to use sarcasm on in place of "intellectual stimulation" as you put it.

What you sow so shall you reap.

Sorry about that.
In another thread I actualy answered the bloke.
I am forced to wounder just how free are we to say as we wish?
I blame myself.
See I truly think the current Senate position[ compare it with NSW upper house] is of true concern to us all.
I know and understand *I should not post in the closed mind threads of that author*.
But too *STRONGLY* hold the view we have , while concerned about methods of micro party,s, no right to even talk, about some ones *POLICY,S BARRING HIM HER* from holding a seat.
In the end do I say as I think?
Well know this I am unconcerned at what some think of me, for holding firm to my values and opinions.