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Female genital mutilation.

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turtletimtam, "I'm not that worried over male circumcision though. Those who have it done can still enjoy sex and it's not done as a method of control"

Is that so? How much sex do boy infants enjoy?

Why do you reckon it isn't a religious rite and a 'means of control' as you say?

That your prejudice allows you to easily dismiss the risks for boy infants does not recommend you for a vote. Whom were you figuring on representing in the vague chance you might be elected? Certainly not the half of the population that you so easily dismiss.
Posted by onthebeach, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 2:21:58 PM
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Also wondering how many boy infants 'want it done'.

Heck, why be concerned about any lack of informed consent where boys are concerned? (sic)
Posted by onthebeach, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 2:35:24 PM
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turtletimtam,
The states are responsible for enforcing laws in relation to FGM, it is not a federal responsibility. However immigration could be curtailed for those groups that practice FGM.

OTB,
Yes I would like to see our laws enforced equally. How come we regularly carry out raids and prosecutions of those that partake in cockfighting, yet the laws in relation to FGM are not enforced. One can only deduce that our politicians believe cruelty to roosters is far more important than deliberately causing pain and lifelong suffering to little girls, by FGM. Parents must be made accountable, and make no mistake, FGM is child sexual abuse.
Posted by Banjo, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 4:07:38 PM
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Banjo,

I am the first to agree that the laws are applied unevenly. The ethnic vote is important and sometimes the activist and multicultural lobby tail wags the Australian law enforcement dog. I said earlier, "History shows that politicians may lean on police and other regulatory authorities to look away where offensive cultural practices are imported".

More often than not, the very lobbyists and activists who claim to be representing a cultural group are the worst enemies of children of that group. An example is the awful sexual abuse and violence affecting aboriginal children. Activists and the communities themselves refuse to acknowledge the abuses that are occurring and accuse any well-intending politician or whistle-blower of 'racism' and worse for trying to help the children affected. No shame tolerated and the abuses continue unabated.

Activists and advocates lend aid to the abusers because they will not tolerate what they construe as any criticiam of their own spin, or of aboriginal culture (as they describe it). They shore up their claims and their careers too, by ensuring that the worst nightmare of aboriginal children comes true, which is that the children's cries of suffering are never heard by the general public. Or if the cries are heard, the causes are always seen as external.

One only has to remember the number of well-intentioned politicians and others who have been howled down as 'racists' on the ABC's Q&A program for having the temerity to criticise and suggest improve conditions for young aboriginal mothers and children.
Posted by onthebeach, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 4:54:39 PM
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turtletimtam yes I agree, but my purpose in posting the link and talking about that rape was to highlight we all go off on tangents at times.
My first though was pure rage.
But I too remember women all over the world have lied about this and later said so.
Who truly knows.
Banjo good stuff not enough of us get off our bottoms and act.
I truly think a fixed term in prison should exist here for torturers of female kids .
If only all the activists who think so firmly about animal cruelty and saving the Wales, a host of protesters would just sign a page and send the world world wide we are not in the middle ages.
Surely if we tried we could get a million, more even to say enough?
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 9:03:22 PM
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For once, I am in total agreement with onthebeach.

We should all be yelling out loud and clear that ALL child mutilation, in the form of FGM and male circumscision should be banned unless is it for medical reasons.

I have been firmly against these practices since being forced to restrain screaming baby boys, as a young midwife, while doctors hacked off the baby's foreskins...often just because Dad wanted them to look like him!

Then later, I was present at several traumatic births by Arab women who had been circumscised as children, and were now being cut open again to allow the passage of their babies...
Posted by Suseonline, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 9:40:10 PM
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