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Economic migrants abuse asylum

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jayb,

Apply pressure on your federal MP to have
Australia tear up the Refugee Convention.
You would achieve much more that way then
insulting people who disagree with
your take on things on this forum.
Posted by Lexi, Wednesday, 3 July 2013 11:48:55 AM
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jayb, In your ideal Australia you could set up "Fortress Australia" and exclude all those you perceive as undesirable, you may have to resort to the "gunboat" to keep them at bay, sink a few as a lesson to other would be intruders. All well and good as far as you are concerned. What do you do with the undesirables already here, the concentration camp I hear you say. We will need a new secret organisation to deal with potential subversives and other disloyal citizens etc etc.
The majority of Germans supported Hitlers actions against the Jews in the 1930's, so what is your point about the majority.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 3 July 2013 12:18:48 PM
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@Lexi,

<< tear up the Refugee Convention...>>

Well that would be one way --but it might be too macho for some ---after-all,how would all those pollies who spent years cow-towering and selling-us-out to the UN (in a hope for a reward in the hereafter) be recompensed?


A better more New Age way might be to provide the refugee advocates and sympathizers (who aid and abet the illegals) with something more productive to fill their empty hours with -- bang, at one swell swoop there goes your pull factor!
Posted by SPQR, Wednesday, 3 July 2013 12:23:16 PM
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Misanthrope,

What a ridiculous post!
How many refugees do you think would be happy to be set down in the desert, and be told "make it flourish"? The reason no people currently live in those vast stretches is firstly - there is no water, and secondly, they come here to live in our cities where the living is easy, and they have access to all the conveniences. It's difficult to even get doctors, nurses and teachers to go to country communities, and at least those small towns have some reasonable facilities to offer them. Our latest batch of migrants would turn even going to our remote country areas down flat don't you think? Our first settlers chose the coastal areas for good reason - water!

If so many of our farmers are walking away from their land after so many generations trying to make a living from it, just what makes you think these people would want or be able to do differently? Time to come back down to our climate changing earth mate!

Does anyone remember the aboriginal couple who were brought in from the desert in W.A.? Even they couldn't survive there any longer [with centuries of the knowledge of survival skills they could draw on] and were starving. Their children had already left and relocated to the coast to be able to survive, but went back to bring their parents out.
Posted by worldwatcher, Wednesday, 3 July 2013 12:30:05 PM
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Don't bother to debate, Jayb, Lexi and Paul.

Anyone whose only argument is to label his opponents "potential terrorists" is obviously as vacuous and devoid of substance as they come.
Posted by Poirot, Wednesday, 3 July 2013 12:46:47 PM
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Individual,

You're so right about society fragmenting in the EU. I have to wonder if our world population crisis is a factor to be considered in this mass migration?
The Muslim societies are rather different than the Western ones. It is apparent that religion and tribal clans factor violently into many of their internecine conflicts, and unfortunately the western powers have interfered too much, which in turn will hasten their own decline - which includes us.
If every illegal was automatically returned to their country of origin and western countries guaranteed they would fund education and practical skills for them on their return to their homeland, one has to wonder if maybe this would be a better answer, save us supporting them on welfare for life, and stop the flood of boats?
This would then enable western countries to properly assess genuine refugees applications.
Foreign aid to drought stricken areas should include [as the Romans did successfully in the Sahara] drilling wells for water as a priority. Tribal conflict should be the last on the list. Let these people sort out their own problems in their own way, as they have done in the past before the west decided to meddle. Instead of giving practical help to these people, we are sustaining their conflict, and it is now infiltrating our own countries. Not very smart either are we?
Posted by worldwatcher, Wednesday, 3 July 2013 1:41:52 PM
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