The Liberals would be unlikely to change leaders now even with the poll improvement for Rudd/Labor. Generally the Libs are less inclined to air their dirty linen in public with only an occasional glimpse at the inner workings. They are also less introspective or reflective, at least not in public. This tends to indicate Turnbull may have to wait until after TA has retired.

However, politics is highly volatile and reactive, small events can lead to sudden and major changes so anything is possible.

Perhaps pelican you are missing just one point.

Even with some of the no hopers they had after Holt, & including Fraser, they have never had anyone even half as bad as Gillard, or Rudd, or in fact Turnbull.

Hasbeen you can think what you wish.
But you are, surely aware you are in a minority.
Sky news is doing what it and its boss does best, telling lies.
This morning, only via a link do not read trash, they brand faction Lords the winner.
Rudd,s new cabinet they willfully lie is a win for those who deposed him!
Like Windsor I use Sorbent here.
And as Rudd puts better and better policy,s up, Turnbull gets closer to removeing Abbott.

Belly,

I note Peter van Onselen, who is a contributing editor at Sky News and the Australian, tweeted that "....despite all the resignations, the new look ministry is MUCH stronger than the old look ministry was....."

Thanks Poirot never saw that.
Sorry to hark back to the 1970,s but our media Barons have taken up the same weapons.
Abbott looked lost and frankly troubled mouthing his negativity today.
But Hockey looked far worse, the bloke can be forgiven for being nasty he mixes humor with it.
But consider his words.
*Labor has had 3 leaders in 6 years they are dysfunctional*
He and ABC radio interviewer let truth fly out the door, Howard followed by Nelson then Turnbull now Abbott 4 leaders! in the same time.
chuckle worthy stuff.

Not to mention their little dance with Hewson - followed by the debacle of Downer.

The weird thing is that the ascension of Howard came out of desperation.

There was no-one else after Downer. Costello was a tad wet under the ears. Howard was the elder statesman and the most experienced, so he was installed to give stability.

Who would have predicted he would have gone on to be a success.

I remember seeing him interviewed during the Hewson/Keating election. - and he looked all but washed up.

One never knows when the gods are going to smile upon one.