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What Does Mr Abbott Stand For?

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<<Empty rhetoric doesn't achieve anything and neither do
Slogans that sound good>>

What are you talking about Lexi. It worked well in 2007 [the 2020 change Australia summit, the signing-up to Kyoto and saving the world initiative , the no kid will be living in computer poverty promise]

Why on Earth would it NOT work again?
After all he's already fooled you with it, AGAIN!
Posted by SPQR, Saturday, 6 July 2013 2:50:04 PM
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SPQR what Lexi said.
As I said in another thread Abbott is a first class teller of lies.
Nothing he says, ever can be believed.
It must come as a shock to you, road kill Labor alive and thriving again.
But live with it you must as Kev rises Tony sinks.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 6 July 2013 2:51:29 PM
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Belly,

I know you think you've got me pegged as a diehard LNP supported --but it aint so.

I am no great fan of Abbott. And I'm not convinced he is as committed to stopping boats as he is to getting the PMs position.

However, I believe as a party --at least in the present age --the LNP are more committed to border control than is the ALP

There are too many in the ALP who see caving in to asylum scammers as another one of our great moral causes/obligations and are only half-hearted in their approach to border control.
Posted by SPQR, Saturday, 6 July 2013 3:05:08 PM
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Dear SPQR,

My family lives in rural Australia and
there is no way on this planet that they
are voting for the Coalition while Mr Abbott
is leader. They simply don't trust the man
who puts his personal ambition ahead of the
country and will do anything short of "sell his
a*se," (as Tony Windsor confirmed) to be PM.

As I stated many times previously Mr Abbott has
to do more than just keep breathing to become
the next leader. It is not enough to have the
job presented on a plate. Australians need
to know precisely why they should vote for him
and the Coalition. This requires work, not
glad-handing, nor empty rhetoric.

If Mr Abbott believes he leads the next government-in-
waiting it is incumbent on him to enunciate the policies
and vision that drives them.

Again, I repeat that clearly, there has been huge
advantages while in Opposition in offering a small
target to Labor, but to carry that strategy any
further now is to treat voters with contempt.

Throwing out a government is not the same as electing
an opposition. The electorate, like nature, abhors a
vacuum. Without detailed policies it cannot properly
assess who deserves to govern.

I can't wait for a public debate between the two
men - Rudd and Abbott so that voters can see for
themselves who they want to lead us and represent us
on the world stage. Abbott would have floundered in
Indonesia. For heaven's sake the man can barely speak.
Posted by Lexi, Saturday, 6 July 2013 4:05:20 PM
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Yep, Abbott needs to present actual *POLICIES*, that are fully costed.

He did that at the last election, but, only 1 week before the actual election. It was proven to be a shonky costing job, and was the main reason he lost the election for the Coalition.

He NEVER learns. Abbott will do the same thing this election. The final, costed policies will be presented to the public as close to the election that they can get away with, in an attempt to evade proper and complete scrutiny.

The Aussie public is not totally stupid, and will see through this. it will cost Abbott the election again .... just like last time. Abbott was a loser, and he'll remain a loser. He's the Coalition's main weak link, amongst a large group of weak links like the 2 Bishops, Pyne, Hockey, any member of the Nats, that crazy woman who lost personal control in her speech last week etc etc etc. They are a bunch of aggressive and angry amateurs, who have had the biggest dummy spit ever since they lost the last election.
Posted by PJack, Sunday, 7 July 2013 1:43:20 AM
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SPQR Abbott unfortunately has taken his party to new lows.
Not all, not most but too many tin pot screamers and not enough thought.
You may think I am mad or just bad.
But have no doubt, a thinking Australia may bring your party back to Turnbull.
That would make this a knife edge election.
Like Rudd he could clean out the cob webs and put popular policy,s back.
Rudd is a populist, but so was Howard it takes one to be elected.
I say what I think.
Abbott is the wrong leader.
Both sides need to very carefully watch what they give birth to in this country in relation to the way we think of our near neighbors.
And we need Abbott,s thoughts of stopping the boats like a hole in the head.
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 7 July 2013 6:10:08 AM
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