Please ignore the above post-

KarlX,

Why ignore?

I was referring to the Coalition's big ticket item of "turning back the boats"".

(Btw, WA has has some of the best infrastructure in the country. We have governments - even Liberal one's - who look to the future in that regard)

So far Rudd13 has given Indonesia two C130 Helcules military aircraft and two patrol boats.

Heaps better than a civilian Cessna and the boats used by our own Water Police.

It is understood that Rudd13 is also allowing Indonesia to buy Australian cattle stations. He will fund training of Indonesians in in Indonesia in raising and managing cattle.

Will the travel of Indonesians in Australia without visas be the next concession of the table?

Indonesia is aware that Kevin13 has a time imperative set by the election and needs to re-brand to make it all seem to be his idea.
Kevin13 has delivered Indonesian diplomats a heavenly run, while hamstringing his own.

Indonesia has been given on a platter the upper hand in negotiating a better outcome for itself.

'Cooperation' is coming with a big price tag. Millions more out of the pockets of Australian taxpayers and a loss of at least some decision making capacity in who can come to Australia.

It would be infinitely better if Kevin13 could leave the negotiations for the government elected in a couple of months time. Better still, he should call an election at the earliest.

Kevin Rudd has certainly proven himself to
be a capable diplomat as his recent visit to
Indonesia has shown. He managed to discuss a
wide variety of issues, amongst which were
talks on the regional problem of asylum seekers.
Things may not change overnight - but this is
about building foundations that can be built on
in the future.

The establishment of the Indonesia - Australia Red
Meat and Cattle Forum - a $60 million 10 year initiative
to boost investment in the Red Meat agri business sector
in Indonesia will be good for the Australian beef industry,
good for Indonesian investments and good also for consumers.
The NT's Cattlemen's Association welcomed the support for
increased live export quotas.

Not bad for a man who's only been back in power for a week.

<<Kevin Rudd has certainly proven himself>>

I'm sure if he is handing our $60,000,000 cheques he'll have half the PMs in Asian wanting to join his talkfests.

Dear SPQR,

Empty rhetoric doesn't achieve anything and neither do
Slogans that sound good