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Public Confidence in Police in NSW.

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I think it's way past high time that the Police Union jumps up & down to make the idiot magistrates & Law-Policy makers listen. The Unions should for once do what they're supposed to do & that is to stand up for their members & their members should in turn jump up & down to effect a referendum on punishment for crime. The same goes for discipline in schools. There's such an enormous lack of discipline out the but no-one thinks it within their responsibilities to act.
I for one am working on having a change on things starting with the replacement of top bureaucrats at elections. I hope some of you will do similar. Remeber bad things happen when good people do nothing & that means most of us.
Posted by individual, Sunday, 2 June 2013 9:15:56 AM
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In Queensland the police union is one of the major problems. That knuckle-dragging neanderthal thug el president' typifies whats wrong with the QLD police service generally. We desperately need any halfway decent serving cops to demand union management presents a professional image instead of the present stone-age attitude that is all too regularly demonstrated in the bashings common to Fortitude Valley & Surfers Paradise.
Posted by praxidice, Sunday, 2 June 2013 9:31:37 AM
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I wish the sanctimonious justice league commentators that tut tut from the comfort of their armchairs, face a drug fuelled violent psychotic who beats the daylights out of them while the police, now too intimidated to use force, stand by.

With 20/20 hindsight is very easy to determine exactly the right level of force necessary to subdue a violent (reportedly armed) person, but at the time, insufficient force could very well lead to the death of a policeman or bystander. Considering that there has not been any connection made between the death of the psychotic and the force used, ruining these people careers is not warranted.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Sunday, 2 June 2013 9:46:23 AM
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Shadow Minister

Not one of the multiple instances of police brutality recorded on video in Fortitude Valley and Surfers Paradise involves as much as a hint of drug use. The typical victim is a middle-class adult male with absolutely no illegal substance history whatever, even police reports tendered to the CMC fail to mention drugs as a factor. Surely one would expect that argument to be used if there was a chance of justifying bashings ??

Anyone who uses the 'what about the times when you ask police for assistance' story has quite obviously never been in that situation. For what its worth, the response is invariably 'we are too busy'. Mind you the carpark at the nearest Maccas is full, the flash for cash cameras never want for operators and the patrol cars with flashing lights at roadworks never fail to have a cop inside watching porn. Guess those ore higher priority than citizen support though.
Posted by praxidice, Sunday, 2 June 2013 10:06:34 AM
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What you blokes are saying only cements my argument for changing the top at election. We need to push for a referendum on achieving this change if we want proper justice. Yes, even the top judges & Magistrates need to move over.
I believe if all victims of crime could somehow get together we'd have a pretty good chance of making this dreadful situation better for all.
Anyone who can not proof having been a victim has to butt out from the start & if they don't they should be charged with perverting the course of Justice.
Posted by individual, Sunday, 2 June 2013 10:36:17 AM
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Tyler Cassidy's mother goes to UN to call for independent body to investigate police shootings

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-30/mother-of-melbourne-teenager-shot-by-police-takes-case-to-unite/4721952

There's also been a long held suspicion that Tyler and his young friends had been flagged by Police intelligence as dangerous "Neo Nazi" political extremists due to the interference of so called "Anti Racist" activists and journalists. The information I received at the time of the shooting strongly supported the theory that "Anti Racists" had set up a fake extremist group called "Southern Cross Soldiers" lured young people in to entrap them and then reported their names to the security services.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Sunday, 2 June 2013 10:46:57 AM
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