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Is it racist?

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@ csteele, Thursday, 6 June 2013 11:42:59 PM

The quotes I gave in my post Wednesday, 29 May 2013 3:42:42 PM that you pretend are my definitions came from a dictionary of US urban slang. Where else to find rubbish like 'Jigaboo'?

It was not mine at all as most would realise and you too. However the examples were reasonable to show that the 'Jigaboo' US fringe rapper slang of functional illiterates that was introduced by the original poster (now disappeared) has a range of meanings. What is clear however is that it is apparently US way-out fringe group black rapper on black and has no origin, sense or use outside of at very narrow sub-culture of the slums. That is well demonstrated by the examples.

The OP's fantastic story is more likely to be the product of someone on dope and with malice aforethought for 'dissing' whites. 'Jigaboo'? What B.S.! Totally inappropriate and irrelevant to the Australiam context.
Posted by onthebeach, Friday, 7 June 2013 1:45:49 AM
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Poirot,

You haven't changed a jot, you are still defending the abuse of the child's rights, the rights of her grandmother who was her carer at the ground, and of course her parent's rights.

That has been my central theme and concern. It will not change and I will not be shaken from it. The treatment of that adolescent child minor was damned disgusting. It should be investigated independently of the AFL and police to ensure that it never occurs again.
Posted by onthebeach, Friday, 7 June 2013 1:58:12 AM
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onthebeach,

Perhaps one day you'll "stop" ascribing opinions to people based on your own "slippery" interpretations.

"My central theme" has always been culturally indoctrinated abuse which is passed onto the younger generation as a matter of course.

Provide a post from me where I "defended" the way this girl was treated by authorities?

I realise you'll never acknowledge that what Goodes did was highlight standard abuse that goes on week in and week out, whereby people on a sporting field are apparently expected to cop abuse and shut up about it.

If I was you, I'd stop bleating about it around here, and get straight onto the authorities to tell them of your outrage.

(I understand that you hold no disdain, let alone outrage, for the people who actually taught this girl to bellow abuse)
Posted by Poirot, Friday, 7 June 2013 9:14:09 AM
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Dear onthebeach,

I don't think anyone would have thought the definitions were your words but I certainly should have made that clear.

I must say though that this is getting really interesting.

You wrote;

“The quotes I gave in my post Wednesday, 29 May 2013 3:42:42 PM that you pretend are my definitions came from a dictionary of US urban slang. Where else to find rubbish like 'Jigaboo'?”

So I go to the Urban Dictionary web site and type in 'Jigaboo'.

These were the first 3 definitions given.

1. “The funniest sounding racial slur known to man. Used mainly by whites to disparage black people.”
2. “dirty and crazy yet crack infested, commonly related to negroes”
3. “persons of the black color (african-american, negro, etc) living in or around small, often abadoned in appearance housing in which crack cocaine, whores and in nicer areas, chicken and rice is sold.”
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=jigaboo

Most of the others were along the same lines but I could not find the ones you had referenced. My initial thought was you had used a different site but I decided to try another variation of the word, one used by the OP, 'Jigga Boo'.

The top three definitions were;

1. “Human of African descent, having jig like qualities. Slang racial derogatory term, i.e. jungle bunny, coon, spook.”
2. “Used as a disparaging term for a Black person. Frequently used in the southern portion of the United States.”
3. “A black person who only pretends to work. Instead they stand around smiling with their big white teeth and stare out with their huge white eyes.”

I should mention the fourth one as it is pertinent to the 'ape' slur,

4. “a so called human that hasent evolved for many centurys”
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=jigga%20boo

Cont...
Posted by csteele, Friday, 7 June 2013 9:50:47 AM
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cont...

Still no reference to negroes and white women but I thought I would try one other derivation that had been used in this thread, 'Jiggaboo'.

1. “a really dark skinned black person with strong negroid features (ie. big lips, wide nose, nappy hair)”
2. “Jiggaboo is a name given to describe a stereotypical black person lacking in intelligence.”
3. “A term often used in the Southern regions of the United States in reference to African-American individuals that possess a darker than average skin pygment (Darkening skin color). These 'Jiggaboo's" often appear to be seen in the dark even in daylight hours, as the whitening of their eyes and teeth appear to glow through the darkness of their skin tone surrounding the eyes and mouth.”
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=jiggaboo

However I knew I had struck paydirt because there at 4 was the first of the quotes you used;

4. “A jiggaboo is person that reinforces the many black stereotypes such as..., Mainly listens to rap music (i.e. 2-Pac), Eats chicken all the time (i.e. KFC), Uses common black phrases or words (i.e "What it do?" and "folks"), Wears name brand clothes (i.e. Rocawear or Ecko), Wears doo-rags, Lazy and stupid, Smokes alot of weed”

Your second was found way down at number 9;

9. “A male black (negro with dark skin) that makes a fool of himself by exclusively chasing after white women. A male black that dates only white women as a status symbol. A male black that considers white women as superior to black women. A nigga that divorces his black wife to date a white woman.”

The question that needs to be asked is why did you skip over all those other quotes to reference one of the least racially offensive on the lists and to also reference the only one that described black/white sexual relations?

I think the thesis that you potentially have psycho-sexual issues around race is thus far sustained.
Posted by csteele, Friday, 7 June 2013 9:52:44 AM
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The aftermath (or is it the after-match) is incredible... I'm trying hard to really care. Just as well the 'girl child minor' wasn't wearing a niqab.

Because no-one should be racist when not meaning to be, here's a handy reference (gotta love the internet); the racial slur database:

http://www.rsdb.org/races

Remember the good old days when children knew their place, were taught to be polite, to respect their elders and to be quiet unless spoken to? Even, as she was recently described, people like "the 13yr old girl adolescent child minor".

So let's blame her Nan for failing to control her at the footy and her parent's failure to teach her not to be rude.

She is probably wallowing in celebrity at school and given how creative teenagers are she could have been given new, non-racist - just vernacluar and interesting - nicknames like Princess Kong or Rock Ape?

Plus, I think some people are pretending to be concerned about how the brouhaha will affect 'the girl's self-image'.

She obviously doesn't care about it. Not only does she barrack for Collingwood.. did you see how fat she is?
Posted by WmTrevor, Friday, 7 June 2013 10:02:49 AM
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