cont'd ...

BTW: Can you still be a Marxist if you drive a
ferrari?

And actually Chardonnay is not as popular as
you think. But there you go. It's your
fantasy after all,
I'll leave you to it.

onthebeach,

I put it to you that you couldn't give a toss about the "poor girl" involved.

That your concern for her welfare (which will be much better served for having been made aware of her folly) is merely a convenient diversion so that you can excuse, or even champion, the base and cowardly behaviour of a certain cohort of "Australians".

Poirot, "(which will be much better served for having been made aware of her folly)"

Again the sting in the tail to further victimise the girl, a child minor.

You just cannot resist can you? Haughty contempt for the legal rights and protection of children. Disgusting.

Hi Jayb and Loudmouth

I don't think anyone should be called an ape, white or black, but we are talking in terms of a racist context. In fact wouldn't we all like to love and live with one another as respectful neighbours side by side.

White people have not lived with the stimga of being percieved as on the same level as animals ie not human like white folk. In 100 years time hopefully we won't need to have conversations like this.

onthebeach
I am not a Marxist and I see you are still using any post to bring out your anti-feminist dogma. What the two have to do with racism I am not sure.

You seem to imply that one cannot argue against racist language while simultaneously caring for our youth. How do you come to that conclusion? I care very much about the 13 year old girl and I was really impressed with Goodes' dignified handling of the matter being careful to note her youth and lack of knowledge. I hold no ill will towards this child at all and do not blame her for her comments. I have read that the girl did not know the term was racist (for the reasons given above).

This post is about terminology and what it means to be racist. I think there can be over-reaction to racism at times just as there can be about womens' issues but I am speaking in context of the post about why language is important.

I am not trying to be a do-gooder, chardonnay drinker, Marxist or any other term you may choose to throw. If you don't have a cogent argument and prefer to reduce yourself to stereotypical labels by all means do, but if you have a cogent argument please I would prefer to deal with those than distracting personal attacks.

It really gets lame after a while and only diminishes any good arguments you may have to offer.

If only some of you do-gooders could understand what you're defending.

individual
Please define do-gooder and explain what is being defended.

I should add that I don't believe in restrictions in freedom of speech. It is not that I believe racists should be given open slather only that it is the lesser of two evils where governments dictate language or dress code or anything else that is in the 'personal' domain.

The best approach is education and in discussions like this forum. Freedom of speech is great, it allows us to see people for who they really are and we can make our own judgements from there.

There are some instances where I do feel the discrimination banner comes out too quickly without regard to intent or rational thought about what actually happened. But in the context of naming the dog, if Jigga Boo has the same meaning as the 'n' word then I fully understand why it might be offensive. Why cause offence to someone, isn't it just to change the dog's name.