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How many is an 'Invasion'

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Dear Banjo,

I'm not pushing any line. I'm simply giving links
that explain the legalities involved. People have to
be assessed and proven to be "illegal." It is not
illegal to ask for asylum - which is why we have
detention centres. People's status must be ascertained
first before labels are given. To tar them all with the
brush of "illegality" is simply wrong. But we have
covered this ground before. It's just that you keep on
repeating the same nonsense.
Posted by Lexi, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 10:41:47 AM
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SPQR
Thanks for your response. I must have made a DENT in your conscience. Perhaps if I keep reading your posts I may expand my knowledge of world affairs, sorry to have bitten you, you left a sour taste.
DEN 71
Posted by DEN71, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 11:13:31 AM
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Lexi,
You are right that it is not illegal to ask for asylum.
You are wrong that it not illegal to enter other than at a port of entry.
You are wrong that it is not illegal to arrive without a visa from 1st safe country.
You are wrong that it is not illegal to destroy your documentation.
You are wrong that it is not illegal to sell your passport.
You are wrong that it is not illegal to travel through many countries and not claim asylum at the first safe country.

I just cannot see how they can be said to be legal !
Posted by Bazz, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 11:40:51 AM
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Dear Bazz,

Here are the facts:

http://www.sbs.com.au/goback/about/factsheets/4/are-asylum-seekers-who-arrive-by-boat-illegal-immigrants

Asylum seekers who come by boat are NOT illegal immigrants.

The Migration Act 1958 allows for entry to Australia
without a visa for the purpose of seeking asylum regardless
of how they arrive or whether they hold valid travel or
identity documents.
Posted by Lexi, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 12:10:08 PM
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The term "illegal immigrant" was originally used to describe someone that has entered the country without the correct documentation or not by a legal port of entry.

Technically, I as an Australian citizen if I come in by sea and bypass customs and immigration would be an illegal immigrant, even though I have the right to be here.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 12:29:12 PM
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@Lexi,

<<Dear Bazz,
Here are the facts:>>

No Lexi, you tried that caper before (I think you even used the same old crappy link!)

And it was pointed out to you, demonstrated to you, proven to you, that the the Dept of Immigration considers them illegals.
(and every other thinking person would add the descriptor shonks)

But you don't seem to be able to retain things (a symptom of old age?)

I'll book you up for the remedial class with Den71 (I think that the "71" in his handle is his age --you will be able to reminisce about old times!)
Posted by SPQR, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 12:43:44 PM
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