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How many is an 'Invasion'

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Dear Philip,

The language used in these debates has an
enormous impact on those being spoken about
and affects the tone of the public conversation.
Before you make your sweeping statements I suggest
that you do a bit more research, especially what
really goes on in detention centres and the effects
of them on human beings. They cannot go home, and
even basic medical services are not available -
in places like Nauru or Manus Island as last night's
Four Corners program showed.

As for our homeless and where my sympathies lie or
don't. You don't know me.
You should try arguing in a logical manner
as sound reasoning will conquer unreasonable
generalisations every time. You appear to be
arguing on an emotional level - not a mature
intelligent one.

When it comes to discussing this issue it seems
that a reluctance by some people to consider
the term "asylum seekers" or "refugees" instead of
"illegal immigrants" means supporting a
particular political perspective which benefits
from characterising certain human beings as
"Illegal." Clearly this perspective is not an
objective or unbiased one, but one which carries
its own political agenda.
Posted by Lexi, Sunday, 5 May 2013 1:57:30 PM
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Lexi - Please be so kind as to direct me to some of your comments or posts that express outrage at the lack of compassion and help afforded to Australian citizens.
That will show who is right as per this Quote from you "As for our homeless and where my sympathies lie or don't. You don't know me."

My term for them is most appropriate ECONOMIC INVADERS, even the UN has said a lot are just economic refugees.

As far as I am concerned with there being tens of thousands expected to arrive MOSTLY single men, I would back any action however drastic by any Government to STOP them.
Remember we have thousands of homeless people but not 1 homeless refugees, every boat that arrives means more homeless because they will get housed and money.
Posted by Philip S, Sunday, 5 May 2013 2:20:07 PM
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Lexi,

When the cost of detaining and processing the illegal immigrants reaches close to what the new NDIS levy raises, then the choice is almost between looking after our disabled or the economic migrants that come in by boat.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Sunday, 5 May 2013 2:27:39 PM
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LEXI and others

The UNHCR's global budget for this year is $3.7 billion and with that money they are expected to respond to the crises of Syria, Mali, Afghanistan, for 25 million globally.

PLEASE JUSTIFY WHY WE SPEND MORE THAN THAT ON THE ECONOMIC INVADERS WE HAVE HERE. At the expense of our own people.
Posted by Philip S, Sunday, 5 May 2013 3:35:23 PM
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Dear Philip s.,

All you have to do is go back and
read my posting history. You just may
learn something about me and my feelings
towards my fellow human beings.

It seems to me that you're becoming increasingly
agitated. You're overly focusing on what happens
to poor people in this country versus what happens
on a daily basis in those countries.

I don't grade one life over another, and I believe
it is a dangerous and ugly business deciding to
assign different values to each.

I shan't be responding to you any further.

See you on another discussion.
Posted by Lexi, Sunday, 5 May 2013 6:04:28 PM
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cont'd ...

Dear Philip s.,

Just to correct you...

I'm not talking about "economic invaders" (your words),
but asylum seekers and refugees.

There is a difference.
Posted by Lexi, Sunday, 5 May 2013 6:08:04 PM
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