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How many is an 'Invasion'

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3,000 in one month = 36,000 in 12 months, how many do you think is an invasion Tony? how long can we support this many people coming into the country ? where are the houses, jobs for these folk,? what happens when their families arrive? How will we feed them? what about Australian taxpayers paying for queue jumpers care at the expense of services for the elderly, single mums, homeless etc?
Posted by saussie, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 11:54:10 PM
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Easy saussie, we will just cut funding on things in order to pay the bill.

Uni funding cuts are just the beginning I am afraid.

As far as being invaded, of cause we are being invaded, albeit, peacefully (for the time being) at least.

Our main problem is we can't stop them when unarmed, so how will we fair if and when they arrive armed.

I say we need the big stick approach, NOW!
Posted by rehctub, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 7:02:39 AM
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<<3,000 in one month = 36,000 in 12 months...>>

Way, way, way too conservative Saussie.You didn't factor in how many relos they are going to sponsor through one guise or another.

And then there's the hidden costs,such as when one or other of our big brother commissions inform us --as they inevitable will -- that "their studies" have found former refugee scammers are under represented at company board level and we need to introduce special measures to redress that.

And the other real biggy --opportunity cost-- while we are occupied with all of the above we will not have the time nor money to ensure that those poor unfortunates who have slipped through the cracks of our education system are brought up to speed --so poor bighters like DENT71 will have to get by with only their rudimentary knowledge of world affairs --and continue to vote for the Greens.
Posted by SPQR, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 7:05:01 AM
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<3,000 in one month = 36,000 in 12 months
That's the starting figure, wait till they start breeding here! You'll be facing your neighbor's backside at prayer 5 times a day before long if we don't put a stop to this now ! First move get rid of Labor & Greens.
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 7:59:19 AM
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I just don't know how we can get out of this mess.
You just do not have the money to maintain the existing expenditures
let alone all the latest schemes. It just cannot be done.
It is not just the money that has run out, it is the credit also.
Money is being invested here as an act of desperation, but as soon as
our AAA rating ends it will go in one big whoosh. Our credit with it.
When that happens government salaries don't get paid, the dole does
not get paid either and the pensions just don't appear in the bank.

The result will be that the boat people will receive nothing and will
be just left on the beach.

The pollies just don't understand what is going on.
They seem to think that what has happened in Cyprus, Greece, Spain
etc, cannot happen here !
Without some dramatic change of direction, it will happen here.
Posted by Bazz, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 9:32:04 AM
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Well, I am a bit surprised that Lexi and Susie are still pushing the line of "it is not illegal to seek asylum in Australia". these two posters have been here for a long time and this issue of boat people has been debated many times. So they would be well aware that on many occasions quotes from the DIAC website, under visas, states clearly that it is unlawfull to enter Australia without a valid visa. Therefore what they are doing is illegal. This has been pointed out many many times, but still they persist with spin seeking to promote some incorrect legallity of boat people actions.

As well, if the actions are legal, on what grounds do we detain them?

We do not detain arrivals wily nilly, we have to have grounds for detainment. Persons arriving with valid visas are not detained, but free to go about their business. For example, young Laura Dekker arrived in Darwin by boat and spent serveral weeks there free to do as she wished before she departed. She was not locked up or detained. So just because a person arrives by boat does not mean they are detained.

The simple fact is that it is illegal to enter Australia without a valid visa and that is the only reason we can detain unlawfull arrivals.

This whole saga has been a monumental stuff up by Labor, firstly by Rudd putting out the welcome mat and showing weakness in the 'Oceanic Viking' matter and the ongoing failure to properly address the issue. The illegals now know we are so soft that they do not believe what our government says and on they come. To change this it will now take very serious and draconian methods to get the message to them that they will not get what they seek, no matter what.

The cyclone season has ended so we can expect more and more illegal arrivals. More arrival records broken. It surely is an invasion.
Posted by Banjo, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 10:34:19 AM
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