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Will Climate change impact on the election.

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qanda thanks , I hold my hand up, no way I know as much as you.
As a kid who left school before the age of 13 I admit my education only started then.
And as a politically involved person, I claim no bias as a result of my ALP membership, and fall back on my current thread fast finding friends gone, as evidence.
I see, time and again,scientists not from this field, being quoted to rebuke those of us who think we have a problem.
I read international press daily, sifting for links on this and other subjects.
I have few doubts we must act and that acting, cleaner fuels ext has benefits our side climate change.
Here we are confronted by folk who get their thoughts from shock jocks!
Posted by Belly, Friday, 5 April 2013 3:02:46 PM
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I think that the single biggest lie perpetrated by Labor, is that Australia's carbon tax will have any effect on the environment without global consensus.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Friday, 5 April 2013 4:59:58 PM
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The thread is read
While thought's not dead
And monolith rambles onward,
But come September hark the call
From far and wide to rally,
Will Red or Green or Yellow thrill
The gaping grappling masses
As strident Ms or jolly monk
Bestride the bucking jackass?
The gas released twixt now and then
Will surely warm the planet
And grinning sure
Our bold Quixote
Will hail the matter settled.
Posted by Saltpetre, Friday, 5 April 2013 8:37:45 PM
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Saltpeter be assured sadly Liberals have won the race before it starts.
Too that this subject is international not ours alone.
SM beg to differ and just maybe in time your party,s last 4 leaders policy,s, not just the mad monk and his daffy duck team, wants,a price on carbon will again be policy for your lost tribe.
Bet on it!
Bet too you will then agree with them.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 6 April 2013 6:14:17 AM
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Hey QANDA, you said earlier:
"If you add energy to a system (e.g. atmosphere, ocean, cryosphere and terrestrial biosphere) it heats up.
However, the system reacts by trying to maintain its equilibrium (exemplified by a change in the frequency and extremity of weather events)."

This is a genuine question about that, because I heard Flannery say it the other day. I think I generally understand the GHE, but maybe I missed something. "If you add energy". Where is this extra energy coming from? I thought the energy was solar insolation which varies only a little. I understood the GHE to mean that outgoing radiation is absorbed and re-radiated, slowing the transmission to space. There is no 'extra' energy as such is there?
Posted by Graeme M, Saturday, 6 April 2013 7:58:00 AM
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GraemeM, don't be so obtuse.

That "extra" energy has been "locked up" for millions of years - but you knew that.

Like I said:

"simplifying the science is open to abusive criticism from scientists and non-scientists alike."

You have just demonstrated the latter - you will fit in well with your fellow OLO travellers.
Posted by qanda, Saturday, 6 April 2013 9:10:01 AM
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