British schooling is the home of institutional racism and British teachers are chicken racists.

The British government is again asking us ,Muslims, to adopt the" British values" and to integrate fully into the British way of life.

But many so called "British values" are not acceptable to us.
We would like to confirm again that we practising Muslim believers will never ever adopt or integrate into all these "destructive and immoral values":

-Sexual immorality, sleeping around,affairs,adultery and fornication,illegitimacy,teenage pregnancy, immoral sex education,pills and condoms and Morning after-pill to every one? ( the contraceptive mentality).
-Sexually immoral programmes and messages daily on all TV and many radio channels and in magazines and newspapers.
- The legalisation of homosexuality and homosexual practices(gays and lesbians).
-the culture of death: killing every day 600 innocent unborn babies through abortion. And the killing of our old sick patients after stopping food and fluid to make them die from starvation and dehydration(Mental capacity Bill).
-Alcoholic drinks and drug abuse which are causing hellish problems in all sectors in our society.
-Yob culture
-Gender-bending: women becoming like men and vice versa.
-Disrespect for motherhood and full time mothers.
-Broken families and neglect of elderly parents who are suffering and dying alone.
-Unjust campaign of "Death and destruction" on concocted pretext.

Let us all: people from all faiths(Islam, Christianity...) and from all nationalities: ADOPT FULLY THE DIVINE HUMANE SAFE HEALTHY AND ECONOMICALLY BENEFICIAL VALUES :
*Morality, Chastity and fidelity, heterosexuality.
*Clean safe media.
*The Sacredness of life/Culture of life(no abortion, no assisted suicide and no Euthanasia).
*Avoidance of poisons(alcohol and drugs).
*Clear,natural,healthy,different genders, procreation/full time mothers.
*Healthy, stable extended families with care and love to our weak old parents.
*Peace, not wars.
*No occupation of any one else's land.

Thank GOD, our Christian friends and believers and many other sensible people in our society, do share with us almost all these DIVINE values.
We know it's right, so let's do it.
IA
London School of Islamics Trust
http://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk

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Iftikhar: Majority of children will learn Urdu language because it is a lingua franca of the migrants from the sub-continent. And majority of British Muslims are from Pakistan and their national language is Urdu.

I haven’t a clue what the majority Islamic language is here in Australia. But I’m sure the children can learn to speak their native language at home as was done by the Greeks Italians & Germans after WW2.

The Middle Eastern Culture is a worry as most of it is incompatible with Australian Culture. Female circumcision, child marriage, cutting people’s heads off if they don’t toe the Islamic line, wife beating & the killing of infidels are Islamic culture traits that are incompatible with Australian Culture.

Are these parts of Islamic cultures that we would welcome being taught in ANY school in Australia? I don’t think so. There are some Muslim clerics that teach some Muslims that in Mosques in Australia now. We know that from past experiences. It would be certain that those teachings would flow over to the Australian Kids in State Primary schools.

Now can we debate these issues in a civilized manner? If a question is asked can the responder respond without diverting the question?

Most questions will only require a Yes or No answer. I'm sure it won’t be that hard to answer a question.

Let’s make it easy. The positive side can be the ones who want the quran & Islamic language & Culture taught in Australian Primary schools. The Negative side can be the ones who don’t.

It looks like Loudmouth & I are on the Negative side.

Hi Jayb,

Yes, and I think we would also have the Enlightenment, and the victories of the long, bitter struggle for human rights, the trends of history if you like, on our side as well.

'Negative', I'm not so sure. Rights affirm, they don't negate.

Now acquiescence, appeasement and silence - all those useful idiot behaviours which would negate those struggles - perhaps they are more properly termed 'Negative'.

Hopefully now, we will see a spirited defence of reaction from the usual useful idiots :)

Joe

Loudmouth,

"But whether any language should be taught using state funding, in school time, is another matter..."

It's fascinating that after I established that Iftikhar did not call for the Quran to be taught in schools - but for Quranic Arabic to be taught, all of a sudden you switch your criticism to the teaching of languages other than English in general.

Not surprising, I suppose....

LOTE (Languages Other Than English) has been established in public schools throughout the country for a long time. In WA before the introduction of the Australian Curriculum, it was compulsory. The New curriculum has developed a three tiered framework for the implementation of language studies - including Arabic.

http://www.acara.edu.au/languages.html

Jayb,

Congratulations on your extended rant...perhaps you might like to examine the difference between the terms "Quranic Arabic" (Classical Arabic) and "Arabic from the Quran".

>>We would like to confirm again that we practising Muslim believers will never ever adopt or integrate into all these "destructive and immoral values":<<

Like legalised homosexuality, decriminalised abortion, contraception, a patient's right to refuse medical treatment and beer.

I think Australia has enough homophobes, bigots, wowsers etc. without our kids being taught 'Arabic' don't you Poirot?

Cheers,

Tony

Tony Lavis,

Arabic is a language, not an attitude. You had better take it up with the curriculum council if you believe that teaching it will lead to homophobia and bigotry. (I note that some my fellow English speakers on this forum seem to be quite adept in the debasement of those who are different - without even a smattering of Arabic)

Having said that, I see Iftikhar has gone beyond "language" in his latest post...so I'll leave it to the usual suspects to argue this thread out.